From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 16 19:25:52 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7A843C25 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2014 19:25:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vc0-x232.google.com (mail-vc0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c03::232]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 30865D27 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2014 19:25:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vc0-f178.google.com with SMTP id hq12so7179850vcb.37 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2014 11:25:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=LzZb90yyPo6WmoSQJbePSBioYdY6NdmQzC3T/aDKahY=; b=gYUYro8lj7c1g0lXN1xAXJYgoaB64dFJub3xP/CeItaQURuInaz+Ppqkn1QNNvRCQh 3BNKF63FChXQ+hU1iLj6ynA7cUkCwmmWd1xvksBaROxA+gh6p4N/2ZTgM3ycqoG8CjU7 YAHvzyOIUZvQr/8CFwk61aQbV1IeEkTFvL0a9RarTjVPJfcUVpn6qnCEM5VUfFem0X8j gjbMB89KOoCo0wnj4C43EvjLzsLkmiqDTrPyJCAd23tHX7ml5kUW52SsQhUdRGVrTIAo bhhuVYeNX2+V7Lb04I3n3O4WDyS1zvGXfB0oE4msrRLbXohDoYgeK2xN/WOWa1tKTHW5 93OA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.221.36.73 with SMTP id sz9mr20774975vcb.17.1416165951271; Sun, 16 Nov 2014 11:25:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.118.19 with HTTP; Sun, 16 Nov 2014 11:25:51 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <54680726.1010708@bluerosetech.com> References: <54680726.1010708@bluerosetech.com> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2014 14:25:51 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT-ish SATA port replicators vs. SAS "expanders" From: Zaphod Beeblebrox To: Darren Pilgrim Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: FreeBSD Hackers X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2014 19:25:52 -0000 On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 9:08 PM, Darren Pilgrim < list_freebsd@bluerosetech.com> wrote: > A SATA port replicator (or port multiplier) is more like a USB hub: you > plug the replicator into a host SATA port and it provides more than one > SATA port for devices. I've yet to see one without interoperability > problems. They also add a big risk: if one of the devices on a replicator > has a problem, the host can't reset individual replicated ports--just the > host port. > > I have used the Mediasonic 'Probox' 4 drive eSATA for some years. I have 6 of them now. If you were running a standard RAID, you'd have the problem that one drive can take down the array and that you'd have huge trouble recovering. However, ZFS handles this well...