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Date:      Sat, 11 Sep 2004 19:27:33 +0800
From:      "Peter Ryan" <pryan@singnet.com.sg>
To:        "'Bill Schmitt (SW)'" <software@schmittnet.com>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   RE: Need advice
Message-ID:  <200409111128.i8BBSYR7025569@eastgate.starhub.net.sg>
In-Reply-To: <4142C74C.8010701@schmittnet.com>

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> -----Original Message-----
> Bill Schmitt (SW)
> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 17:37
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Need advice
> 
 
> Considering all of that, my questions are:
> - Am I being unrealistic in choosing a machine with a 300MHz 
> processor?
> - If I add another 128MB of memory, should I expect to see a 
> dramatic improvement?
> - Could the graphics adapter itself be the bottleneck?
> - If I picked up a newer graphics adapter that was supported 
> by xorg, would a switch to 5.x and/or xorg be expected to 
> pick up the speed a bit?
> 
> Thanks to anyone who might help fill in the blanks.
> 
> Bill

I am an ultra newbie to everything *nix, so bear that in 
mind when considering what I write. 

I would watch out for your swap space setting.
One of my 'play' machines has only 64MB memory.
When i set swap too big (512MB on one occasion),
the KDE desktop ran like a dead dog. Switching back
to a more reasonable swap fixed that problem.

I had been installing from the 4.10R CD, included 
KDE selected as a desktop. This installed a KDE
package from the CD.  This caused me no end of problems 
when I tried to install some other packages wanting
more recent versions of things KDE used.

I may have chosen poorly when selecting what
to do about that, but I have now settled on an install
procedure which seems to avoid most of the problems
I have encountered - so far :)

I install from the 4.10CD, and only select cvsup from
the package collection.  I dont install a desktop from the
list offered during the sysinstall.
I then rebuild the ports completely using cvsup.
I then install /usr/ports/sysutils/portupgrade.
I then run portsdb -Uu
Then I upgrade the few packages that are already
there (primarily XFree86) with portupgrade -a.

This procedure has served me well so far. It is based
on the OnLamp article and much assistance from
Matthew Seaman and others on this list.

http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2003/08/07/FreeBSD_Basics.html
http://www.onlamp.com/lpt/a/4111
and the patch suggested by Matthew for a portsdb problem,which worked.
http://archive.pilgerer.org/mharc/html/freebsd-questions/2004-09/msg00563.ht
ml

Once that is done i go on with whatever packages
I want to try, including the desktop.

I found the best place to look through the questions mailing list is
http://archive.pilgerer.org/mharc/html/freebsd-questions/
The layout of threads is excellent

Hope something here helps
Peter




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