From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Mar 24 0:39: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from russian-caravan.cloud9.net (russian-caravan.cloud9.net [168.100.1.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35B1237B419 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 00:39:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from earl-grey.cloud9.net (earl-grey.cloud9.net [168.100.1.1]) by russian-caravan.cloud9.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D83F28EAE; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 03:39:01 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 03:39:01 -0500 (EST) From: Peter Leftwich X-X-Sender: To: Seagull Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: So long and thanks for all th... [scary spy product] In-Reply-To: <200203231813.g2NIDfF21866@shell1.aracnet.com> Message-ID: <20020324033038.T29652-100000@earl-grey.cloud9.net> Organization: Video2Video Services - http://Www.Video2Video.Com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 23 Mar 2002, Seagull wrote: > PL> Long story short. Workplaces that use *hubs* for their LAN are icky and promiscuous. They pimp out your ehternet adapter ("NIC"). Workplaces that use *switches* are loverly. Security is your buhhhhh-dee. > But don't be lulled into a false sense of security in a switched With computers these days -- especially if you use Micro$oft's VBScript-loving applications -- there is no such thing as having "lull" and "sense of security" in the same sentence. > environment. There's nothing to prevent someone from attaching a hub in > an unsuspecting cow-orker's office and sniffing from there. A lot of Very good point. > companies hide network drops under desks, behind furniture, etc. for > asthetic reasons. It's real easy to hide a hub and a network cable > without anyone ever knowing. And in some of the offices I've seen, you > could probably hide a working laptop for a couple of days, too. Use as > much security as your business conditions allow. > Cheers, > John > -- > \ carpe cavy! > seagull @ aracnet.com \ > http://www.aracnet.com/~seagull \ (seize the guinea pig!) I am really replying to this message because there's a really cool but really scary product out there carried by most spy, surveillance, and counter-surveillance retailers. It's a rather innocuous-looking 1.3" (approx. 11cm?) long or so regular-seeming keyboard adapter that goes between the keyboard plug and the PC. The adapter can log all keystrokes up to 64k or something. I guess if you saved your password in a plaintext file then you could defeat this keylogger with copy/paste, but -- why?? Not long before everything involving controlled, private computer access is any one of: retinal scan, artificial intelligent conversationalism (in case of duress), facial recognition, warm fingerprint scanner (in case of severed digits), etc. Comments on the one-uppingness or chicken-or-egg-first philosophies anyone? -- Peter Leftwich President & Founder Video2Video Services Box 13692, La Jolla, CA, 92039 USA +1-413-403-9555 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message