From owner-freebsd-advocacy Fri Jun 12 21:33:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA25500 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 21:33:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from softweyr.com ([204.68.178.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA25490 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 21:33:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Received: from softweyr.com (zaphod.softweyr.com [204.68.178.35]) by softweyr.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA18333; Fri, 12 Jun 1998 22:32:44 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Message-ID: <358200EC.9EDAB78A@softweyr.com> Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 22:32:44 -0600 From: Wes Peters Organization: Softweyr llc X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Garance A Drosihn CC: Stuart Krivis , "Jason C. Wells" , phil grainger , advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: copyright References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Garance A Drosihn wrote: > > I still think this mailing list suffers from the name that was > given to it. In usenet heirarchies, the "advocacy" newsgroup > is where to send all the endless philosophical discussions, or > name-calling, or platform-religion topics that no sane person > wants in the "real" usenet discussions. It is, by definition, > a garbage-collection of topics. > > Here, the advocacy mailing list is meant to be a serious list > with a real purpose: figuring out how to make FreeBSD more > acceptable to more people, and how to connect with people who > would be well-served by running FreeBSD (if they only knew > more about it to try it out). > > So, I think this is a bad name for a serious mailing list, but > even after a few weeks of thinking about an alternate name I > haven't thought of anything which would be notably better... You're exactly right, the charter of this mailing lists is more in line with the "technical evangelists" at Apple in the past. I hope we're somewhat less rabid (and more reasoned) than the Kawasaki Corps, though. I hesitate to call this an "evangelism" project, because it tends to offend "churchy" people, and those offended by churchs. Silly, but true. A quick trip through an on-line thesarus turned up nothing of real help. "FreeBSD Missionaries" conjures up visions of a large stew pot with Jack Velte hot-tubbing his way to millions; not exactly the light *I* want to protray us in. ;^) "FreeBSD Advocates" sounds a little too much like a software licensing law firm. Sigh. Perhaps we should adopt a Klingon word or something? An obscure latin phrase? -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC http://www.softweyr.com/~softweyr wes@softweyr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message