From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Wed Feb 7 14:37:57 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60A67F0AA3C for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2018 14:37:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a.andersson.thn@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io0-x234.google.com (mail-io0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E6A656BF3B for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2018 14:37:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a.andersson.thn@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io0-x234.google.com with SMTP id b198so2220494iof.6 for ; Wed, 07 Feb 2018 06:37:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=TmfXCBMNCgoNgMn0ZXz9ftIBk43zU2jxoXV4smRab00=; b=AIpIX6lhRz8CU5vG+D4pY6AhUk0cCBrgMNS/6rYqqOMSv676WQibR3UmTEWxItFvm9 +x81XqGJQJKJ9biEF2aycn3UfbXGA1Obw5ikU4KMbiG+Blmofa9fOUCTys/HVy7xhzcY onI0G1+8VweCgbs/QyNEe4rPWzNMuSwSevS7l0Zxld6lip0SITG/Q7YffR7QZiy5UM+V AxUtUa2aCNNepJSjdJ478UqkbbC00vZc/DaHSDTaL+gsHMxQmbVyJOe8GAKLDNOazQCk mx48LnXB1ybxaMDbbZy0tPF7zbzRjuoDuoqianzJ5RRBAbi5c+hDDGjpMma5qXLVbL9O TG5g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=TmfXCBMNCgoNgMn0ZXz9ftIBk43zU2jxoXV4smRab00=; b=rtpedII9cTWYHKuX5YvEuuVNO5ruaBEf1vsRDVNdMAYJzaTQlEnYDJlZCRpE/gmN7Z GcfuNjk0k1fEJ+3qbc50MxC+08vbi4njsHN7ACz+IkXCwJhGUEuYmlIZHu7GWxsvAULj XfGY4ejIC4lI8IF5br/0pBGT6elmsBJyvt3jd4RS10Y/og7W/8nz9vWXFMg1NBzL+mXJ 6dduFgyP+JzcFNt0M5kfguekakYs3U9lx2yP+e5DOZ9+tyRZ52fdCwCU5Po7jZHFSI+m 3rEM1+8uBSi48lFRoSfx0EcdqVugqxNXPajEdFty19poeLybc8150aZCaOncx224d+ph pdmw== X-Gm-Message-State: APf1xPABNNcBfVuy/nfAoKfjFKxCOp7JpWVWlOe1zGiCARwWCVwqBvvZ TR1QLtKdrijRmddeGvxcMxEihhmCI1v/SEDvd/M= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AH8x226v2AFSh2kMYSINZQXfqf5gVcJBtTBzTVewJslYYYnwLoo5cc1PFjMfFU+oWVLuMphu5kQWOIatUzzqQh8dieY= X-Received: by 10.107.137.82 with SMTP id l79mr8184688iod.212.1518014275501; Wed, 07 Feb 2018 06:37:55 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.79.4.205 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Feb 2018 06:37:54 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20180207092827.GA81527@home.opsec.eu> References: <20180206222137.GA78935@skeletor.feld.me> <20180207092827.GA81527@home.opsec.eu> From: Andreas Andersson Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2018 15:37:54 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD Palemoon branding violation To: Kurt Jaeger Cc: LuKreme , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.25 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2018 14:37:57 -0000 So, moonchild (that's his actual name (or tilltalsnamn in swedish) ) might own the trademark. But atleast Swedish trademark laws https://www.riksdagen.se/sv/dokument-lagar/dokument/svensk-forfattningssaml= ing/varumarkeslag-20101877_sfs-2010-1877 grants usage to other parties as long as "other parties" does not make money off of the name or the product. For him to actually enforce this it has to be registered by the swedish PRV http://www.prv.se and subsequently worldwide by wipo. I've looked through PRVs database and nor does a search on his name, full name or the variations of pale moon turn up any results in a search. Not saying we should keep this in ports tree and keep using the name. Just stating that there is nothing he could do about it unless he registers the trademark and get's it registered (varum=C3=A4rkesskyddat in swedish.). The reaction to the repo in question is also very weird to me, and possibly what worries me the most. He is hurting his own trademarked (heh) product by doing this. 2018-02-07 10:28 GMT+01:00 Kurt Jaeger : > Hi! > > > > After your recent harassment of OpenBSD > > > (https://github.com/jasperla/openbsd-wip/issues/86) I decided to > > > investigate our own packaging of Palemoon. As expected, we are also > > > building against system libraries. You can review our build log > > > here: > > > > Huh. I would have nuked the port after about the 5th post in that > > thread. > > While I'm also surprised about the interpretation of the open > source spirit, I'm also a very satisfied palemoon user right now, > after the latest firefox changes. So I'm happy that we try to > keep palemoon, even if we call it newmoon 8-} > > If there's something I can do to help (test etc), I'll try... > > -- > pi@opsec.eu +49 171 3101372 2 years to > go ! > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >