From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 17 23:41:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from rapier.smartspace.co.za (rapier.smartspace.co.za [66.8.25.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6030237B401 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 23:41:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 7401 invoked by uid 1001); 18 Jan 2001 07:41:23 -0000 Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 09:41:23 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: "Donald J . Maddox" Cc: Dima Dorfman , dan@langille.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: too much confusion over kernel building Message-ID: <20010118094123.B6927@rapier.smartspace.co.za> References: <20010118071534.031B13E02@bazooka.unixfreak.org> <20010118022343.A7286@cae88-102-101.sc.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010118022343.A7286@cae88-102-101.sc.rr.com>; from dmaddox@sc.rr.com on Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 02:23:43AM -0500 Organization: Building Intelligence X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu 2001-01-18 (02:23), Donald J . Maddox wrote: > On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 11:15:28PM -0800, Dima Dorfman wrote: > > > Over the past few weeks and months, I've seen far too many people > > > using "make buildkernel KERNEL=MYKERNEL" when they should have > > > used "config MYKERNEL". > > > > I'm not quite sure we should be advocating using the older, `config > > MYKERN` method. It doesn't really have any advantages over the newer > > one, and suggesting different ones for different purposes will only > > confuse the novices, IMO. Plus, `make buildkernel KERNEL=MYKERNEL` is > > quite a bit simpler than, > > > > config MYKERNEL && cd ../../compile/MYKERNEL && make depend && make > > > > So, my question is, why use the older one? I can understand why > > people still use it because they've been doing it that way for the > > last X years, but that's no reason to teach it to new people. > > It seems to me that most of the confused are usually just trying to > recompile a custom kernel to add, for example, sound support. It's > ridiculous to make these people do a full world build just to be able > to hear sound from their soundcard. Obviously, if you have updated > your source tree from, it's very dangerous NOT to do the buildworld - > buildkernel - installkernel - installworld dance. But it's silly to > advocate that someone who just installed 4.2, and simply wants to hear > an MP3 must do a full buildworld... Just my $0.02. Who exactly is advocating a full buildworld? The "new" style should not require a full buildworld. If it doesn't work, it's a bug. Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner nbm@mithrandr.moria.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message