From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 8 17:55:10 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B42C16A4CE; Mon, 8 Mar 2004 17:55:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from guns.icir.org (adsl-68-76-113-50.dsl.bcvloh.ameritech.net [68.76.113.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 366D943D1D; Mon, 8 Mar 2004 17:55:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mallman@icir.org) Received: from lawyers.icir.org (adsl-68-76-113-50.dsl.bcvloh.ameritech.net [68.76.113.50]) by guns.icir.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C57FD77A6D4; Mon, 8 Mar 2004 20:55:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from lawyers.icir.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lawyers.icir.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F38DA10F269; Mon, 8 Mar 2004 20:54:57 -0500 (EST) To: Jeffrey Hsu From: Mark Allman In-Reply-To: <200403082325.i28NPAa3010399@mtaw6.prodigy.net> Organization: ICSI Center for Internet Research (ICIR) Song-of-the-Day: Moondance MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 20:54:57 -0500 Sender: mallman@icir.org Message-Id: <20040309015458.F38DA10F269@lawyers.icir.org> cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Who wants SACK? (Re: was My planned work on networking stack) X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: mallman@icir.org List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 01:55:10 -0000 --=-=-= > > I hope it is clear to everyone that an investment in the 50K$ > > range would provide a professional-grade implementation of SACK > > for FreeBSD, and this money is in the noise for any organization > > that uses trans-oceanic gigabit links. > > What Luigi says is absolutely correct. It doesn't take a lot to get > this done. I've talked to a number of companies about implementing > SACK for them and while there was interest, no one wanted to fund it > all themselves, potentially for the benefit of their competitors. I > know of two that went and did it themselves for FreeBSD --- one of > which did it wrong and saw zero benefit from SACK and another that did > it right, but are keeping it proprietary as an edge. Given that Linux > and Windows already have it, these and the multiple past efforts > collectively seem like an unnecessary duplication of work. Perhaps if > we could pool enough interest, we can raise enough to put this issue > to rest once and for all. On the freebsd web page, there is a note about monetary contributions. I wonder if it would be worth it to make this a bit more verbose and list specific things that are in need of funding. So, companies can tag a small donation for "SACK development" and when there is enough in the pool it can just get done. Would that spurn folks on a bit? Or, would it be useful to setup some sort of committment system whereby a company can say "we'll throw 5K in if you get committments for the 50K you need to make X happen". It might be worth the modest investment to setup something like that and keep it maintained. That way it's a bit more official than some random person running around and trying to put together the required coin. Just a thought .... allman -- Mark Allman -- ICIR -- http://www.icir.org/mallman/ --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (Darwin) iD8DBQFATSPxWyrrWs4yIs4RAjWHAKCO7vREK6gUIsEBzSWcBEC8y+yEtQCcDqza EQ4RabGubBLJE1ruLhr/YPk= =T7/t -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--