From owner-freebsd-current Sat Nov 23 19:50:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 907C837B401 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 2002 19:50:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from beck.quonix.net (beck.quonix.net [64.239.136.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E66D43E88 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 2002 19:50:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from john@essenz.com) Received: from localhost (pcp01324074pcs.neave01.pa.comcast.net [68.81.22.158]) by beck.quonix.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAO3m0A66633 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 2002 19:48:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from john@essenz.com) Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 22:50:32 -0500 Subject: Re: gcc 3.2.1 release import? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v482) From: John Von Essen To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.482) Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Belling the cat comes from a children's story, and is often referenced in behavioral economics and game theory. The story goes, the mice decide that life would be much safer if the cat were stuck with a bell around its neck. This way the mice would hear the cat approaching. The problem is, which mouse will risk his life to bell the cat? This problem of belling the cat comes up in everyday life. Why is a planeload of people powerless before a single hijacker, or how can small armies control large populations? In both cases, a simultaneous move by the masses would result in a high degree of success. But the communication and coordination for such actions is difficult. When people must act alone and hope momentum builds up, the question arises, "Who is going to go first?" -John Von Essen On Saturday, November 23, 2002, at 09:39 PM, Brad Knowles wrote: > At 1:53 AM +0200 2002/11/24, Vallo Kallaste wrote: > >>> But who will bell the cat? I vote for Snuffles. >> >> Don't understand. Some inside joke or something based on US centric >> TV? What are you trying to tell me? Remember I'm not native. > > I am a native US citizen (well, caucasian ;-), and I don't get the > reference. Maybe it's something regional, or perhaps something that only > the older folks will get. > > Anyway, I think that he was trying to make is that it's all well and > good to talk about doing the debugging, etc..., but the real question is > who is sufficiently clueful and has the spare cycles to do all this work > in such a short period of time? > > > Frankly, I would be willing to bet large sums of money that it won't > happen. Indeed, my vote would be to not attempt to make it happen, and > allow for gcc 3.2.1 (or whatever) to be incorporated into -CURRENT after > the 5.0-RELEASE. > > Better the devil you know than the devil you don't. > > -- Brad Knowles, > > "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary > safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." > -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania. > > GCS/IT d+(-) s:+(++)>: a C++(+++)$ UMBSHI++++$ P+>++ L+ !E W+++(--) N+ > !w--- > O- M++ V PS++(+++) PE- Y+(++) PGP>+++ t+(+++) 5++(+++) X++(+++) R+(+++) > tv+(+++) b+(++++) DI+(++++) D+(++) G+(++++) e++>++++ h--- r---(+++)* z(++ > +) > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message