From owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 16 20:54:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBA0816A4DD; Sun, 16 Jul 2006 20:54:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpalmer@freebsd.org) Received: from noop.in-addr.com (noop.in-addr.com [208.58.23.51]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BCAB43D58; Sun, 16 Jul 2006 20:54:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gpalmer@freebsd.org) Received: from gjp by noop.in-addr.com with local (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1G2Dcw-0007Ew-D9; Sun, 16 Jul 2006 16:54:10 -0400 Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2006 16:54:10 -0400 From: Gary Palmer To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org, freebsd-pf@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060716205410.GB6444@in-addr.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org, freebsd-pf@freebsd.org References: <44B7715E.8050906@suutari.iki.fi> <20060714154729.GA8616@psconsult.nl> <44B7D8B8.3090403@suutari.iki.fi> <20060716182315.GC3240@insomnia.benzedrine.cx> <44BA8A95.10300@suutari.iki.fi> <20060716191732.GD3240@insomnia.benzedrine.cx> <44BA9ECA.6090607@suutari.iki.fi> <20060716202253.GF29207@heff.fud.org.nz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060716202253.GF29207@heff.fud.org.nz> Cc: Subject: Re: Any ongoing effort to port /etc/rc.d/pf_boot, /etc/pf.boot.conf from NetBSD ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Security issues \[members-only posting\]" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2006 20:54:11 -0000 On Mon, Jul 17, 2006 at 08:22:53AM +1200, Andrew Thompson wrote: > But.. pf runs before any userland daemons are loaded so how does it > matter if there is a short window between netif and pf if nothing is > listening? That is one use case for PF, where you are protecting the local system. What if you are running PF on a multi-homed host? Is net.inet.ip.forwarding only ever set to 1 by /etc/rc.d/routing, or can that be set by something else before it gets that far? Gary