Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 04:40:27 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org> To: Dag-Erling Sm??rgrav <des@des.no> Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Mike Meyer <mwm-keyword-freebsdhackers2.e313df@mired.org>, Ivan Voras <ivoras@fer.hr>, Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org> Subject: Re: New FreeBSD package system (a.k.a. Daemon Package System (dps)) Message-ID: <20070511084026.GA59508@xor.obsecurity.org> In-Reply-To: <86sla33gkm.fsf@dwp.des.no> References: <200705102105.27271.blackdragon@highveldmail.co.za> <f20c8u$htp$1@sea.gmane.org> <17987.52037.112351.872442@bhuda.mired.org> <20070511015156.GA77895@xor.obsecurity.org> <86zm4b3h7h.fsf@dwp.des.no> <20070511082657.GA24652@xor.obsecurity.org> <86sla33gkm.fsf@dwp.des.no>
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On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 10:33:29AM +0200, Dag-Erling Sm??rgrav wrote: > Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org> writes: > > On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 10:19:46AM +0200, Dag-Erling Sm??rgrav wrote: > > > Not if you want to use pre-built packages. You made sure of that when > > > you decided (against my objections) to include .la files in packages. > > I have a suspicion you're never going to let that go, but it's not > > relevant here anyway. Binaries have been hardcoding their build > > location (e.g. /usr/local) since the dawn of time. > > Most don't. Assertion without proof. In fact a quick survey shows that 90% of my /usr/local/bin references /usr/local. > > The best you can > > do is to binary edit everything to a string of the same length, and > > that works for .la files too. > > The existence of .la files is a bug. > > We already have a mechanism for recording dependencies between > libraries; it's built into the ELF format, and does not require > hardcoding any directories. Introducing .la files which override the > existing mechanism and *do* hardcode directories is a regression. > > I don't buy the argument that "KDE won't build without them", or > whatever it was you used to justify this. I can't help it that you weren't paying attention. Kris
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