From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 18 14:46:14 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACE30106566C for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 14:46:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from john@baldwin.cx) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [65.122.17.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F7D18FC18 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 14:46:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bigwig.baldwin.cx (66.111.2.69.static.nyinternet.net [66.111.2.69]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 316A946B09; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 10:46:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jhbbsd.localnet (smtp.hudson-trading.com [209.249.190.9]) by bigwig.baldwin.cx (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 692FA8A021; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 10:46:13 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: Carsten =?iso-8859-15?q?B=E4cker?= Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 09:35:23 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.1 (FreeBSD/7.3-CBSD-20100217; KDE/4.3.1; amd64; ; ) References: <4BA20A43.10006@demig.de> In-Reply-To: <4BA20A43.10006@demig.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <201003180935.23634.john@baldwin.cx> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (bigwig.baldwin.cx); Thu, 18 Mar 2010 10:46:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.1 at bigwig.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=4.2 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on bigwig.baldwin.cx Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: loader(8) readin failed on 7.2R and later including 8.0R X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 14:46:14 -0000 On Thursday 18 March 2010 7:10:59 am Carsten B=E4cker wrote: > Hello, >=20 > i ran into a similar problem when recently trying to install 8.0R on an > embedded system. We've been using this hardware for a couple of > years with FreeBSD 4.11 and didn't see any problem like this. >=20 > Disabling the memory hole (15-16M) solved the problem here, but > that shouldn't be a solution. I wonder whether it's a loader-, or a > BIOS-problem, since memory-allocation should respect reserved > areas. The problem is likely because an 8.0 kernel is simply larger than a 4.11 kernel. 4.11's loader would have had the same issue. The problem (as it were), is that we expect to be able to load the kernel + modules into one contiguous chunk of RAM, starting at 4MB (PAE and amd64 kernels start at 2MB). =20 > Best regards > Carsten B=E4cker >=20 >=20 > On Sunday 06 December 2009 12:16:36 am Hiroki Sato wrote: > > Hiroki Sato wrote > > in<20091205.184250.201700943....@allbsd.org>: > > > > hr> A summary so far is: > > hr> > > hr> 1) a<8MB 7.1R kernel + stock 8.0R loader > > hr> 2a) a>8MB 8.0R kernel + stock 8.0R loader > > hr> 2b) a>8MB 8.0R kernel + 8.0R loader with LOADER_NO_GPT_SUPPORT= =3Dyes > > hr> 2c) a>8MB 8.0R kernel + loader with your patch > > hr> 3a) a<8MB 8.0R kernel + stock 8.0R loader > > hr> 3b) a<8MB 8.0R kernel + 8.0R loader with LOADER_NO_GPT_SUPPORT= =3Dyes > > hr> 3c) a<8MB 8.0R kernel + loader with your patch > > > > Grr, I double-checked how it got stuck, then I found the console > > redirect was disabled because of an old device.hints. The revised > > summary is: > > > > loading text loading syms boot > > 1) OK OK OK > > 2a) "readin failed" - - > > 2b) OK "skipped!" OK > > 2c) OK "skipped!" OK > > 3a) OK OK OK > > 3b) OK OK OK > > 3c) OK OK OK > > > > So, the case 2c shows that your patch solves the problem in the case > > 2a. Thank you! :) > > > > Loading>8MB kernel works now, but loading syms sections still fails > > even in the case 2c. >=20 > Ok. Your system's SMAP is kind of weird (it has a very small region above > 1MB, so it may not deal well with "large" kernels, though I thought it had > enough room for at least a 12MB kernel. Hmm, the size of the kernel file= may > be deceptive though since it does not include BSS. I wonder if it is try= ing > to load the symbols after the BSS. =2D-=20 John Baldwin