From owner-svn-src-head@freebsd.org Thu Jun 21 19:35:35 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-head@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB8D11026D94 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2018 19:35:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ian@freebsd.org) Received: from pmta2.delivery6.ore.mailhop.org (pmta2.delivery6.ore.mailhop.org [54.200.129.228]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 66C2E8B8AF for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2018 19:35:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ian@freebsd.org) X-MHO-RoutePath: aGlwcGll X-MHO-User: 3e2d89d8-758a-11e8-b829-b3adae557cda X-Report-Abuse-To: https://support.duocircle.com/support/solutions/articles/5000540958-duocircle-standard-smtp-abuse-information X-Originating-IP: 67.177.211.60 X-Mail-Handler: DuoCircle Outbound SMTP Received: from ilsoft.org (unknown [67.177.211.60]) by outbound2.ore.mailhop.org (Halon) with ESMTPSA id 3e2d89d8-758a-11e8-b829-b3adae557cda; Thu, 21 Jun 2018 19:35:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rev (rev [172.22.42.240]) by ilsoft.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id w5LJZOZ5085541; Thu, 21 Jun 2018 13:35:24 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from ian@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <1529609724.24573.40.camel@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: svn commit: r335402 - head/sbin/veriexecctl From: Ian Lepore To: Mark Linimon Cc: cem@freebsd.org, Stephen Kiernan , svn-src-head@freebsd.org, Eitan Adler , svn-src-all@freebsd.org, src-committers Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2018 13:35:24 -0600 In-Reply-To: <20180621190256.GE3654@lonesome.com> References: <201806200108.w5K18sIR050132@repo.freebsd.org> <1529606006.24573.30.camel@freebsd.org> <20180621190256.GE3654@lonesome.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.18.5.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the src tree for head/-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2018 19:35:36 -0000 On Thu, 2018-06-21 at 19:02 +0000, Mark Linimon wrote: > On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 12:33:26PM -0600, Ian Lepore wrote: > > > > Hiding work in patchsets and reviews and alternate branches and > > other > > shadowy places because it's not perfect > I do not consider bugzilla and phabricator to be "shadowy places"; > therefore, I reject this argument. > > Although I don't have statistics, AFAICT phabricator patches have a > better-than-even chance of going in. > > But, in any case, a middle position would have been to commit this to > a vendor branch and publish instructions on how to grab it from there > and enable it. > > I understand that -current will have regressions in it.  However, the > pendulum has recently swung in the direction of "free-for-all".  This > slows down (e.g.) my own work on -currernt such as testing arm boards > and trying to fix ports there.  ATM I'm not even *attempting* to do > the > latter because I have little faith that any -current I bring in past > the one I'm locked down to (r333619 May 16 UTC 2018) will do anything > but burn my time trying to track down regressions. > > tl:dr; I have enough work to do without trying to fix other people's > stuff.  If that's harsh, so be it. > > mcl > I guess you missed the part about all of this new code being optional and compiled-in only if you add the new options to your kernel config? -- Ian