From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 16 12: 0:44 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3717E37B401 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 12:00:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns1.vagner.com (ns1.vagner.com [65.39.87.179]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5102243F3F for ; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 12:00:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from george@vagner.com) Received: (from root@localhost) by ns1.vagner.com (8.12.5/8.12.6) id h1GK0ZO2070083; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 13:00:35 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from george@vagner.com) Received: from amd2000.vagner.com (pcp02972580pcs.manass01.va.comcast.net [68.48.106.33]) by ns1.vagner.com (8.12.5/8.12.6av) with ESMTP id h1GK0Ptt070075; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 13:00:26 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from george@vagner.com) From: Laszlo Vagner To: Chuck Swiger , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Replacement hard drives, was: Re: Hard error?? Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 15:00:36 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <3E4E98BC.700@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <3E4E98BC.700@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200302161500.36413.george@vagner.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG the new Seagate 120gb seems to be real quiet and stable for me I cant even hear it running, they have a new motor design and probably is the best bang for the buck right now about $140.00 I had bad luck with quantum, maxtor and IBM and WD but Seagate seem to be very good for me right now. I think there is a website called drivereview.com or something that can better give you a hint. On Saturday 15 February 2003 02:45 pm, Chuck Swiger wrote: > Henrik W Lund wrote: > [ ... ] > > > Anyway, it seems like I have just got to get myself a new drive. On that > > note, has anybody got any idea what I should go for? Any vendors whose > > drives do NOT cave in after half a year? ;) > > Your drive should still be under warrantee, then...? > > To answer your question: I've been fairly happy with Seagate over the > years, and Maxtor has been okay. Seagate's flagship products tend to do > well, at least if you've got an open budget available-- one main > fileserver I run has four Seagate ST336752LC drives ("Cheetah X15 > 36LP"?) in a RAID-1,0. They rock. Maxtor has sometimes seemed to have > better price/performance for their normal drives, which is useful when > one's budget it more constrained. > > Avoid Quantum at all costs. While there was an educational benefit to > learning how to coax more life from one of those famous 105MB's with > stiction, newer Quantum drives are better in the sense that they hold > more data, and worse in that they tend to fail more abruptly and more > permanently. > > IBM and Fujitsu have both been having quality control issues recently, > although the IBM UltraStar lineup used to be pretty good at one point. > I'd also like to give a big thumbs up to recent the Western Digital > series of SE drives with 8MB of cache. WD's previous SCSI drives, like > the 10K 18GB Vantage were good, too. > > As for laptop drives, well, what you want is a single platter drive with > low power consumption, hence low heat-- ie, ones for ultra-thin/light > laptops, something like what Sony's got in their VAIO 505's; expect a > slower spindle speed, though. Even so, laptops tend to take a beating, > and even good laptop drives seem to have about a 25% mortality rate > after 3 years, give or take. > > Anyone know of a laptop that takes SCA (80-pin SCSI) drives? > > Failing that, be nice once SATA + individual IDE channels per drive + > RAID hardware + SCSI layers (TCQ/command protocol/iSCSI/etc) becomes > more common. SATA for the cabling alone will do a world of good. While > I'm thinking about it, a platform-spanning PCI-X version of a SATA/RAID > card would remind me favorably of Adaptec's 2940 (U/UW/OF/etc) series. > > -Chuck > > Disclaimer: Any Clutch fans out there? Last night's show-- in the > hinterlands of Brooklyn, New York; Lamours-- is responsible; any > opinions represented above I may or may not agree with once I finish > recovering. Very good show, finished very late. :-) > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message