From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Apr 22 06:15:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA03932 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 22 Apr 1996 06:15:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nixpbe.pdb.sni.de (mail.sni.de [192.109.2.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA03912 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 1996 06:15:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nerv@localhost) by nixpbe.pdb.sni.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA04800 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Mon, 22 Apr 1996 15:14:42 +0200 Message-Id: <199604221314.PAA04800@nixpbe.pdb.sni.de> Subject: Re: Need tips and tricks for UUCP mail and news To: gfoster@gfoster.com (Glen Foster) Date: Mon, 22 Apr 96 15:14:35 MDT From: Greg Lehey Cc: taob@io.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199604221153.HAA00313@ptavv.nsta.org>; from "Glen Foster" at Apr 22, 96 7:53 am X-Mailer: xmail 2.4 (based on ELM 2.2 PL16) Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > There is an o'Reilly book on UUCP and usenet that is about the best > I've seen on the subject. It does not discuss Taylor UUCP > specifically but it does show how UUCP works and what you need to > configure to get it talking. This book, and the on-line info > documentation for Taylor UUCP (type "info uucp" at a shell prompt), > should be all you need to get UUCP up and running. Integration of > SMTP mail and UUCP mail is not covered in this book, you pretty much > have to dig into the sendmail docs. and config. files to achieve that. > Integration of terminal servers is also not addressed, this is easy > for incoming connections but can be hard for outgoing. > > The book is "Managing UUCP and Usenet" by Tim O'Reilly and Grace > Todino, published by O'Reilly and Associates, Inc. ISBN: > 0-937175-93-5. It is not particularly well written and, to my mind, > poorly organized, but it is the best I've seen available (practically > the only). I am not in any way associated with the authors or > publisher (http://www.ora.com/) except as a satisfied customer. I think you'll find that this is the old version. I haven't seen it myself, but I believe the new version combines the "Using" and "Managing" books, and also mentions Taylor uucp. Certainly I'd recommend Taylor. > This is at least the third time this subject has appeared in the > FreeBSD discussion groups recently. More and more ISP's appear to > be using UUCP for "final mile" delivery of e-mail to small and > medium-sized businesses, especially those that are concerned about > the security implications of having a direct IP connection to the > net. It is admirably suited to that purpose. Agreed, uucp is anything but dead. I think it's still the best way to deliver news to dialup sites, and it's definitely one of the topics in my forthcoming Networking book. > , one of the biggest shortcomings of SMTP is that there is little > provision for polling (yes, I know about the SMTP "TURN" command). > UUCP does polling very well. Has anybody experimented with making > "sendmail -q -Rdomain.of.interest -v" a login shell to handle IP > customers who prefer to poll for their mail? Good idea. I'll think about it. Greg