From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 16 20:54:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DC7AF89 for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 20:54:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@damnhippie.dyndns.org) Received: from duck.symmetricom.us (duck.symmetricom.us [206.168.13.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED3D38FC17 for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 20:54:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from damnhippie.dyndns.org (daffy.symmetricom.us [206.168.13.218]) by duck.symmetricom.us (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id qBGKsG9E099503 for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 13:54:16 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from freebsd@damnhippie.dyndns.org) Received: from [172.22.42.240] (revolution.hippie.lan [172.22.42.240]) by damnhippie.dyndns.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id qBGKrreo061787; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 13:53:53 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from freebsd@damnhippie.dyndns.org) Subject: Re: Another WTF moment From: Ian Lepore To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" In-Reply-To: <24507.1355688103@tristatelogic.com> References: <24507.1355688103@tristatelogic.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 13:53:53 -0700 Message-ID: <1355691233.1198.126.camel@revolution.hippie.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 20:54:33 -0000 On Sun, 2012-12-16 at 12:01 -0800, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > > I have two Seagate ST380011A drives, both in the same single system. > > On that system, I boot to the FreeBSD 9.1-RC3 LiveCD. > > The resulting dmesg messages indicate the following regarding the two drives: > > ada0 at ata0 bus 0 scbus2 target 0 lun 0 > ada0: ATA-6 device > ada0: 100.000MB/s transfers (UDMA5, PIO 8192bytes) > ada0: 76318MB (156299375 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C) > ada0: Previously was known as ad0 > ada1 at ata0 bus 0 scbus2 target 1 lun 0 > ada1: ATA-6 device > ada1: 100.000MB/s transfers (UDMA5, PIO 8192bytes) > ada1: 76319MB (156301488 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C) > ada1: Previously was known as ad1 > > > So, um, WTF? One ST380011A is 156299375 sectors big, and the other one > is 156301488 big. > > How exactly does this happen? Assuming the 3.06 and 3.54 are firmware revision numbers, one might speculate that ongoing testing showed higher sector failure rates than intially expected, and thus newer firmware sets aside a few more sectors as spares. -- Ian