From owner-svn-src-all@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 22:37:07 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B5B19238; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 22:37:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from zxy.spb.ru (zxy.spb.ru [195.70.199.98]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6787586A; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 22:37:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slw by zxy.spb.ru with local (Exim 4.84 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1YgL4J-000Ejr-Um; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 01:37:03 +0300 Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 01:37:03 +0300 From: Slawa Olhovchenkov To: Gleb Smirnoff Subject: Re: svn commit: r281129 - head/etc Message-ID: <20150409223703.GS8220@zxy.spb.ru> References: <20150406071640.GJ23643@zxy.spb.ru> <20150406082553.GW64665@FreeBSD.org> <20150406084141.GK23643@zxy.spb.ru> <20150406084937.GX64665@FreeBSD.org> <20150406085323.GL23643@zxy.spb.ru> <20150409215802.GY21982@hades.panopticon> <20150409220442.GQ8220@zxy.spb.ru> <20150409221632.GB96636@FreeBSD.org> <20150409222557.GR8220@zxy.spb.ru> <20150409222833.GC96636@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20150409222833.GC96636@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: slw@zxy.spb.ru X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on zxy.spb.ru); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: "svn-src-head@freebsd.org" , "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" , Dmitry Marakasov , "src-committers@freebsd.org" , Garrett Cooper X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2015 22:37:07 -0000 On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 01:28:33AM +0300, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: > On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 01:25:57AM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: > S> On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 01:16:32AM +0300, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: > S> > S> > On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 01:04:42AM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: > S> > S> I am talk not about using or not using utf-8. > S> > S> I am talk about unconditionaly forcing switch from non-utf8 to utf-8 > S> > S> locale (FreeBSD-11 can be get not only be fresh install but and by > S> > S> freebsd-update/source update on the live systems, with bunch files > S> > S> witch content in koi8 and named in koi8). > S> > > S> > If content and names in KOI8 in existing installation block migration > S> > to UTF-8, how would you suggest to perform migration to UTF-8? > S> > S> Just create new login class, russian_utf8. > S> Locale is process attribute, not system wide. > S> When someone will be ready to migrate and converted > S> content/names/configs -- he just change login class. > S> If not need -- not changed. > > When is it going to be made default? What about you talk? As I see current default -- no login class, locale "C". I don't see any scrip/tools (in base systems) for creating users and ack 'language/locale for user'. I don't like to remove koi8 locale from base systems (at least in 20 years) -- you can see discursion in -current about Win95 (created 20 yars ago).