From owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 14 19:21:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE49C16A421; Sun, 14 May 2006 19:21:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnn@neville-neil.com) Received: from mrout2.yahoo.com (mrout2.yahoo.com [216.145.54.172]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 035E343D5D; Sun, 14 May 2006 19:21:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnn@neville-neil.com) Received: from minion.lan.neville-neil.com (proxy8.corp.yahoo.com [216.145.48.13]) by mrout2.yahoo.com (8.13.6/8.13.4/y.out) with ESMTP id k4EJJOip068187; Sun, 14 May 2006 12:19:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 14:19:23 -0500 Message-ID: From: gnn@freebsd.org To: Daniel Eischen In-Reply-To: References: <20060513103640.GL69354@cicely12.cicely.de> <20060513085933.R986@odysseus.silby.com> <20060513151305.GP69354@cicely12.cicely.de> <20060513.115539.74661598.imp@bsdimp.com> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.14.0 (Africa) SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.8 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Shij=F2?=) APEL/10.6 Emacs/22.0.50 (i386-apple-darwin8.5.1) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-small@freebsd.org, gallatin@cs.duke.edu, jhb@freebsd.org, silby@silby.com, ticso@cicely12.cicely.de, wb@freebie.xs4all.nl, ticso@cicely.de Subject: Re: Eclipse for Embedded FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-small@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Dedicated and Embedded Systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 19:21:39 -0000 At Sun, 14 May 2006 14:44:32 -0400 (EDT), Daniel Eischen wrote: > > Would you prefer Linux or CE then? ;-) > > No, I confess I still use a series of makefiles using ln, > lndir, cp, et. al. to build vxWorks images. One reason I > dislike vxWorks is that you need write rights to the > installation directory, and it annoys the hell out of me > that I have to work around it so that anyone without > privileges can build. > My condolences, but it beats their configuration tool, I know, I worked there :-) > But the GUI-based tools to configure VxWorks, Linux, CE, or > whatever, are attractive to the majority of developers and most > especially look good to the people who are responsible for > justifying and buying them. _We_ might snub our noses at such > tools, but they look good to others. See, I thought you were being sarcastic, so, mea culpa. I think it's what we'll have to do as well, but I don't think I'll be writing it. No one wants to see my UI skills :-) > Well, see above. A GUI-based configuration tool, with tree-like > heirarchy of dependencies and space requirements would be useful. > Eclipse seems to be the standard for such things, but I admit I've > never used it. > I've not used it either. > And for industrial controls and military applications, a VME bus > (nexus) driver supporting device drivers and mmap'able VME A32, A24, > & A16 space would be great. I think we'll need someone working in those areas first, unless, well, you're volunteering ;-) Later, George