From owner-freebsd-net@freebsd.org Thu Jul 20 22:33:18 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-net@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEAF1CFD813 for ; Thu, 20 Jul 2017 22:33:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net) Received: from mx1.sbone.de (mx1.sbone.de [IPv6:2a01:4f8:130:3ffc::401:25]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx1.sbone.de", Issuer "SBone.DE" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9C1EB7F171 for ; Thu, 20 Jul 2017 22:33:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net) Received: from mail.sbone.de (mail.sbone.de [IPv6:fde9:577b:c1a9:31::2013:587]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.sbone.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4210D25D3A0E; Thu, 20 Jul 2017 22:33:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from content-filter.sbone.de (content-filter.sbone.de [IPv6:fde9:577b:c1a9:31::2013:2742]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.sbone.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7B89AD1F826; Thu, 20 Jul 2017 22:33:07 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at sbone.de Received: from mail.sbone.de ([IPv6:fde9:577b:c1a9:31::2013:587]) by content-filter.sbone.de (content-filter.sbone.de [fde9:577b:c1a9:31::2013:2742]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bN__13lYOBgW; Thu, 20 Jul 2017 22:33:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.198] (unknown [IPv6:fde9:577b:c1a9:f001::2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.sbone.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8463ED1F7F6; Thu, 20 Jul 2017 22:33:01 +0000 (UTC) From: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" To: "Kajetan Staszkiewicz" Cc: "FreeBSD Net" Subject: Re: IPsec tunnel mode with gif Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2017 22:32:58 +0000 Message-ID: <699EB97F-7235-4B1C-9C67-601CA89A4125@lists.zabbadoz.net> In-Reply-To: <1865385.GS045ia5gu@energia> References: <1865385.GS045ia5gu@energia> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; markup=markdown X-Mailer: MailMate (2.0BETAr6088) X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2017 22:33:19 -0000 On 20 Jul 2017, at 22:02, Kajetan Staszkiewicz wrote: > Yet for a reason beyond my understanding FreeBSD handbook proposes a > 3rd mode: > using a GIF tunnel together with IPSec tunnel mode. I really don't > understand > how is that supposed to work. People On The Internet also seem not to > be able .. > Am I wrong? Or is the Handbook wrong? The handbook is outdated and I think what you are referring to is from the early days of the IPv6/IPsec stack implementation times probably during FreeBSD 4. What you are doing (gre/gif inside transport mode to possibly get a link-state change as well, or BGP over transport mode directly is both fine. I think the short answer: updates to the handbook would be very welcome! /bz