From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 12 18:05:59 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A8311065676 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 2010 18:05:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kensmith@buffalo.edu) Received: from localmailD.acsu.buffalo.edu (localmailD.acsu.buffalo.edu [128.205.5.208]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAB9C8FC1A for ; Mon, 12 Jul 2010 18:05:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localmailD.acsu.buffalo.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id B9BB2C1980; Mon, 12 Jul 2010 13:47:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localmailD.acsu.buffalo.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localmailD.acsu.buffalo.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0014FC1823; Mon, 12 Jul 2010 13:47:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mweb2.acsu.buffalo.edu (mweb2.acsu.buffalo.edu [128.205.5.239]) by localmailD.acsu.buffalo.edu (Prefixe) with ESMTP id ECAC2C180F; Mon, 12 Jul 2010 13:47:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [128.205.32.76] (bauer.cse.buffalo.edu [128.205.32.76]) by mweb2.acsu.buffalo.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF05D207A9; Mon, 12 Jul 2010 13:47:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Ken Smith To: "Julian H. Stacey" In-Reply-To: <201007121538.o6CFcIsm053314@fire.js.berklix.net> References: <201007121538.o6CFcIsm053314@fire.js.berklix.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-AohJINwaGNN3xW8aCbyZ" Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 13:47:17 -0400 Message-ID: <1278956837.86120.12.camel@bauer.cse.buffalo.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.28.2 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-PM-EL-Spam-Prob: : 8% Cc: hackers@freebsd.org, re@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tools/ directory is missing on recent install media. X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 18:05:59 -0000 --=-AohJINwaGNN3xW8aCbyZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2010-07-12 at 17:38 +0200, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > Hi Hackers, > FreeBSD install media has lost the tools/ directory from recent CDs & DVD= s: >=20 > Quoting > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-pre.h= tml > ... to resize your partitions and make space for FreeBSD. The > tools directory on the CDROM contains two free software > tools which can carry out this task, namely FIPS and PResizer > ... > PartitionMagic and GParted are known to work on NTFS. GParted > is available on a number of Live CD Linux distributions, > such as SystemRescueCD. >=20 > There is no tools/ directory on recent FreeBSD CDROM disc1.iso & dvd1.iso > ( or on memstick.img, no suprise as recent ) > Maybe an older disc1.iso ran out of room, > & tools/ got dropped & forgotten, not replaced for next release ? It wasn't a size issue that made me stop bothering to put the tools/ directory on, it was more an issue of the tools just not being current any more and not having an idea of what to replace them with. At the point I stopped putting them on the media the world had gotten to the point any tools that can't handle NTFS were useless. > re@,=20 > I suggest consider regularising [scripts ?] to avoid > inconsistent prepend of .../FreeBSD-... to some image names. FreeBSD- is consistently prepended to all the images that have been generated past the date we decided to start prepending FreeBSD- to the image names. Images that were generated before we decided to start prepending FreeBSD- to the image names consistently do not have FreeBSD- prepended to them... :-) > dvd1.iso script author, > Please consider adding tools/ > We might currently be losing some new people, tempted to > try BSD, who need to first download a Linux image with disk > partition shrinker (to run under Linux or MS, whatever), > who then may think: > "Why now dowload a BSD DVD too, Let's continue > installing with this Linux DVD in the drive." It won't happen in time for 8.1 but I'll try to invest some time in digging up reasonable replacements for the tools that had been there. Thanks for passing on your friend's suggestion. --=20 Ken Smith - From there to here, from here to | kensmith@buffalo.edu there, funny things are everywhere. | - Theodore Geisel | --=-AohJINwaGNN3xW8aCbyZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAkw7VRwACgkQ/G14VSmup/bPbwCfUmh+RewSRLcMeiljx6sNE8in WqsAn1XQPNluE8OKRV6jkI7xZVwVwaRe =TO06 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-AohJINwaGNN3xW8aCbyZ--