From owner-svn-src-all@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 8 18:43:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C126106566C for ; Fri, 8 Jan 2010 18:43:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail2.fluidhosting.com (mx21.fluidhosting.com [204.14.89.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31BB38FC15 for ; Fri, 8 Jan 2010 18:43:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 2953 invoked by uid 399); 8 Jan 2010 18:43:11 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO foreign.dougb.net) (dougb@dougbarton.us@127.0.0.1) by localhost with ESMTPAM; 8 Jan 2010 18:43:11 -0000 X-Originating-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-Sender: dougb@dougbarton.us Message-ID: <4B477CBE.6090000@FreeBSD.org> Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2010 10:43:10 -0800 From: Doug Barton Organization: http://SupersetSolutions.com/ User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20091206) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Carlos A. M. dos Santos" References: <201001040916.o049GZ1Y013061@svn.freebsd.org> <4B4384E3.2080600@FreeBSD.org> <867hrvgw2j.fsf@ds4.des.no> <4B46CFE8.8000501@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 OpenPGP: id=D5B2F0FB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: svn-src-head@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r201477 - head/games/fortune/datfiles X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2010 18:43:12 -0000 Carlos A. M. dos Santos wrote: > 2010/1/8 Doug Barton : >> Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: >>> I don't see how the Rumsfeld quote could offend anyone. >> A) Better safe than sorry >> B) Regardless of my own opinions I can easily see how someone could be >> offended by anything having to do with Rumsfeld, the Iraq war, etc. > > Perhaps, at the moment. Which is where we are now, yes. > Five to ten years from now that quotation will > be just history, like the ones from/about JFK, Richard Nixon, and > Spiro Agnew. Actually there are several things in the main fortunes file that I find offensive related to political stuff of the 60's and 70's (although not for the reasons that I think most people would find them offensive). Note, I am not however suggesting that we do a wholesale move of potentially offensive stuff. > Are you whiling to apply such rule to all supposedly > political fortunes? My very first post on this was, "Anything that may offend someone belongs in fortunes-o, and all political commentary belongs in this category." FWIW, while I am definitely in favor of treating all people with courtesy and respect, I am just about as anti-mindless-political-correctness as you can possibly be. In fact, in both my .bashrc and my xscreensaver config I use fortune -a because as much as some of the things in there offend me, I find it refreshing to be challenged by other viewpoints. OTOH, I am also in favor of us building a professional-quality operating system, and while I actually _voiced_ my objection to the removal of "die_you_gravy_sucking_pig_dog" because that is not something that is user-visible, I think that if we SAY there is a distinction between fortunes and fortunes-o that we ought to follow through on that. Putting something that we know could (and almost certainly will) be found offensive in the fortunes file because WE are smarter and more sophisticated than those fools who would be offended by it is childish, foolish, and unprofessional. Doug -- Improve the effectiveness of your Internet presence with a domain name makeover! http://SupersetSolutions.com/ Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. -- Pablo Picasso