From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 2 22:19:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A897A8C6; Sat, 2 Nov 2013 22:19:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@FreeBSD.org) Received: from out4-smtp.messagingengine.com (out4-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 75F342B74; Sat, 2 Nov 2013 22:19:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute6.internal (compute6.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.46]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id 945BB2177E; Sat, 2 Nov 2013 18:19:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend2 ([10.202.2.161]) by compute6.internal (MEProxy); Sat, 02 Nov 2013 18:19:41 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id :references:to; s=smtpout; bh=eY6UuC9eBvkRnzWypzaMvznwICY=; b=Kf cXI37al493pWxO5ioyPYuMvotk76wFY9vKmK2wB0xkYvaOiZCeEJ/RSt58ATjo9J KP6LP2/tzKP3q1hDnU1gaiGtDhOBR72Kt8On0CGXQsj0gQZHuEsRpmXyVzd4C6Wq pmESzIWUfiDnZKUrk/BpqaIcn1UhWPSplZpnR+qM8= X-Sasl-enc: brLgZgn2k9WpRqKXfNEYtpum5J3BM5Eedmc1A+oPuXzl 1383430781 Received: from [172.16.1.145] (unknown [68.117.126.78]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 08FBA6800D0; Sat, 2 Nov 2013 18:19:40 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.0 \(1811\)) Subject: Re: Official FreeBSD Binary Packages now available for pkgng From: Mark Felder In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 17:19:40 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <157EAEE9-A373-44B1-B50A-080FBD76C593@FreeBSD.org> References: <5271BC11.1010303@FreeBSD.org> <5272D0DE.4080209@FreeBSD.org> <52745B7F.2080608@vangyzen.net> <5274B947.7030607@FreeBSD.org> <1680682c-dc77-4ee3-8e59-ee7356f307a3@email.android.com> <5274D90D.8040508@FreeBSD.org> <20131102113750.GG2951@home.opsec.eu> <5274EFD6.6030504@FreeBSD.org> <0F068420-0A1C-4605-90A8-0D1C1120F222@FreeBSD.org> To: Adrian Chadd X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1811) Cc: freebsd-current X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2013 22:19:48 -0000 On Nov 2, 2013, at 3:27 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote: > A lot of HTTP infrastructure lives on anycast DNS, HTTP redirects and > geoip records. Saying it's broken and not feasible is nonsense. More specifically what I was referring to was the fact that = traditionally HTTP failover with round-robin A records is very = unreliable; every client can act differently. You really need to be = doing anycast as well to ensure those records are always available which = adds additional architecture complexity that the project may not have = the resources to throw at. GeoDNS also adds a layer of complexity, but = as it turns out there are members of the project with extensive = experience running it. SRV would give us very simple, cheap, reliable = failover. It seems we do have some blockers, though. The good news is that we fully control the client. Hopefully we can just = work around these issues.=