From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 6 08:55:26 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30BCB37B401 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 08:55:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shrike.submonkey.net (pc1-cdif2-5-cust38.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.101.150.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46A9843F3F for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 08:55:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by shrike.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.20) id 19OJYh-000JHV-BD; Fri, 06 Jun 2003 16:55:15 +0100 Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 16:55:15 +0100 From: Ceri Davies To: Paul Robinson Message-ID: <20030606155515.GA74073@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , Paul Robinson , Rahul Siddharthan , chat@freebsd.org References: <20030605165217.A388@online.fr> <3EE04920.7B8EA51F@mindspring.com> <20030606133528.GA9414@online.fr> <20030606142103.GF49662@iconoplex.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="EeQfGwPcQSOJBaQU" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030606142103.GF49662@iconoplex.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: Ceri Davies cc: Rahul Siddharthan cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Peeve: why "i386"? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 15:55:26 -0000 --EeQfGwPcQSOJBaQU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 03:21:03PM +0100, Paul Robinson wrote: > On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 09:35:28AM -0400, Rahul Siddharthan wrote: >=20 > > Most people even today only know windows, have only foggy ideas of > > linux, and don't know BSD at all. I don't see why we should further > > confuse them with talk of i386. >=20 > And you think windows users, managers, office workers, etc. - they know w= hat > an IA-32 architecture is do they? But get confused when talking about i38= 6? > Impressive. Most of the office workers I've worked within in the past did= n't > know the difference between RAM and hard disk storage. Your office must h= ave > come along quite a way. >=20 > If you know what IA-32 is, but don't know what i386 is, you're not somebo= dy=20 > who should be reading the documentation that refers to the phrase "i386"= =20 > without qualification of what it means. For example: >=20 > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-pre.html >=20 > makes it prefectly clear that an i386 is a PC. Where exactly do you perce= ive=20 > there being a problem? The MD of a local company is not likely to want to= =20 > know how to re-build his kernel, so won't care whether we refer to i386 o= r=20 > ia32 - he just wants a box that works. >=20 > Of course, if you really want to do it, I'm sure the doc project will tak= e=20 > your patches and amend their policy to make it clear that the PCs will be= =20 > referred to as IA-32 rather than i386. I just don't see the point, as it = is=20 > likely to cause more ambiguity within the FBSD crowd than it would solve. Actually, I'd oppose that change. Ceri --=20 User: DO YOU ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST AS YOUR PERSONAL LORD AND SAVIOR? Iniaes: Sure, I can accept all forms of payment. -- www.chatterboxchallenge.com --EeQfGwPcQSOJBaQU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+4LljocfcwTS3JF8RAr3BAKC29pEPNTKFALtvPggdZz1yclxDJQCgleSi wnAOjC51e9fBji3BdRP15xc= =Tlev -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --EeQfGwPcQSOJBaQU--