From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 29 12:23:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAA80512; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 12:23:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kpielorz_lst@tdx.co.uk) Received: from mail.tdx.com (mail.tdx.com [62.13.128.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FF6E2357; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 12:23:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from Mail-PC.tdx.co.uk (storm.tdx.co.uk [62.13.130.251]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.tdx.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/) with ESMTP id r6TCNYqQ003679 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 29 Jul 2013 13:23:35 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 13:23:34 +0100 From: Karl Pielorz To: Simon Dick Subject: Re: kldload ipfw, with IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT Message-ID: <67FACFDFDA838E0B60BBDDF4@Mail-PC.tdx.co.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <1D6BF13DFC536AFC94EC6D64@Mail-PC.tdx.co.uk> <51F64BCC.9000301@freebsd.org> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 12:23:36 -0000 --On 29 July 2013 12:30 +0100 Simon Dick wrote: > My normal way is to run the kldload in screen and manually run an allow > all right afterwards > e.g. > > kldload ipfw && ipfw ... :) Yeah, that would probably work - I'm more concerned what impact it would have on the CARP interfaces on the box - i.e. if they get 'cut off' even for a fractional period, they may decide they are the new master (or worse, other boxes may decide they need to become the new master). If there's no way of getting a 'default allow' on kldload (other than the workaround kind of way) it looks like I'll just have to plan for a cut off of things like CARP, and design around it :( Cheers, -Karl