From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Feb 3 20:29:50 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D3A437B401 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 20:29:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from dns1.digitalglobe.com (dns1.digitalglobe.com [205.166.175.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFCDE43F93 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 20:29:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdc@nterprise.net) Received: from lohr.digitalglobe.com (lohr.digitalglobe.com [10.10.11.18]) by dns1.digitalglobe.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h144T98p083438; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 21:29:11 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from jdc@nterprise.net) Subject: Re: Technical Differences of *BSD and Linux From: John-David Childs To: arief_mulya , tech@openbsd.org, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, tech-kern@netbsd.org In-Reply-To: <20030124184914.E7F1C2A7EA@canning.wemm.org> References: <20030124184914.E7F1C2A7EA@canning.wemm.org> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8-3mdk Date: 03 Feb 2003 21:29:09 -0700 Message-Id: <1044332953.4362.65.camel@lohr.digitalglobe.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > 4. Any chance of merging the very best part of each kernel? > > > 5. Or is it possible to do so? > > > > No, I don't forsee merging. der Mouse pointed out the GPL issue, which is > > one where I think the BSD and Linux folks will just agree to disagree. > > Besides some big issues of ideology, there is also the issue of some strong > personalities ...as evidenced by Theo de Raadt's rather helpful post, and also evidenced by the BSD's continued slide into technological irrelevance, despite the fantastic and superior work of a few good hackers. I've been a die-hard FreeBSD sysadmin for nine years now (and OpenBSD for awhile until the caustic attitudes there encouraged me to fsck my OpenBSD servers), but bullshit holier-than-thou posts like Theo's are not only *not* going to win converts, but they seriously malign the rest of the community. Eventually, the die-hards will die hard, and the lack of new competent BSD hackers will seal the coffin...the BSD sysadmin will be sent packing > To the original poster: This kind of posting is very unhelpful. If you > want to learn about the different systems, subscribe to some of the mailing > lists for each group, and watch for a while so that you can build your own > understanding of what is going on in the respective groups. In other words, except for the *hacker/*tech lists, there is no such thing as a stupid question. In the *hacker/*tech lists, there are very few who have achieved the greatness required to engage in discourse...so shut up, stupid. Perhaps it might behoove the respective lists to create a, uh, sheesh...document (I'd hate to use such a passe' term like FAQ), of questions which should never be asked on the list because they'd cause too many flames and not enough "valid dialogue". To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message