From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Sep 30 10:43:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA11474 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 10:43:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA11463 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 10:42:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA23311; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 10:31:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: James Love (by way of Brett Glass ) cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Device Drivers for Linux and Intel's annoucement In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 30 Sep 1998 11:19:02 MDT." <199809301731.LAA17481@lariat.lariat.org> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 10:31:36 -0700 Message-ID: <23307.907176696@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [Redirected just to -chat; for the last time, cross posting is not desired!] > Oh-oh. Guys, it looks as if Intel is throwing its hat in the > Linux arena and is guaranteeing help with the development of > device drivers. But there's no mention of it doing the same > for any of the *BSDs. Will this consign them to permanent > second-class status? No. And what's with all the chicken-little stuff going around these days, guys? It's really self-defeating and rather unnecessary to boot. If nobody is embracing free software, we cry and moan. If people are embracing free software, but just not our particular flavor of the moment, we cry and moan some more. Conveniently forgotten in all of this is the fact that this is all new territory for the likes of Intel and OF COURSE they're going to go courting the Linux folks as an obvious first choice because they are, well, the obvious first choice. Being the first and obvious choice comes from having millions of users and lots of magazine coverage and LOTS and LOTS of BOOKS in the bookstores and all the other indicators which people with suits on are bound to look at before jumping into any new fad (and let's face it, that's what we're looking at right now). People aren't going to start knocking down our doors with movie deals and autograph books just because we all really really want that to happen or because we know FreeBSD Is The Right Solution or any of that stuff, it'll happen when a certain critical mass has been achieved and the time for that to happen has been reached. Personally, I think people need to get busy in the book department if they want to see FreeBSD start going places faster (or they need to be content with it getting there not quite as fast). All this kvetching in mailing lists that Opinion Leaders(tm) don't even read doesn't get us anywhere. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message