From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 10 18:40:20 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9E7716A4CE for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2005 18:40:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zoot.lafn.org (zoot.lafn.ORG [206.117.18.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7125643D31 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2005 18:40:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from [10.0.1.90] ([4.28.157.47]) (authenticated bits=0) by zoot.lafn.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2AIeJ6G028001 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2005 10:40:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <577aeb585de8853de552772d76cb2a96@lafn.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Doug Hardie Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 10:40:17 -0800 To: FreeBSD Questions X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.82, clamav-milter version 0.82 on zoot.lafn.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: how to deal with spam for good? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 18:40:20 -0000 On Mar 10, 2005, at 01:49, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > The only long term solution that is going to work is modding the > DNS records to designate an official SMTP server for each domain, such > a plan has been in the works for a while among the standard bodies > that know what they are doing. SPF is only going to address one form of spam distribution. Unfortunately it does nothing for the spammers who get their own domain and establish their own SPF records. They can continue to spam away at will. Likewise SPF will not close any of the open relays run by the organizations that are pushing SPF. Those will continue to forward spam like they do today. I suspect the open relays are ahead of their SPF checking as we continue to receive mail through them even theough they claim SPF is in use. Spam will only go away when people no longer respond to it. When there is no revenue generated to cover the cost of spamming then it will end. Since spamming is so cheap, it only takes a couple of responses to cover the costs. Probability of finding a couple of morons out there is 1.00. People still respond to the Nigerian scams.....