From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Apr 9 22:07:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA13764 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 22:07:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA13758; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 22:07:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16846; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 14:37:44 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id OAA01386; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 14:37:43 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980410143743.25913@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 14:37:43 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Brett Glass , Mike Smith , David Shanes Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" References: <199804092124.OAA00915@dingo.cdrom.com> <025301bd63fb$0b94bc80$1d43a8c0@shanes.personalogic.com> <199804092124.OAA00915@dingo.cdrom.com> <19980410113536.65458@freebie.lemis.com> <199804100428.WAA09649@lariat.lariat.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <199804100428.WAA09649@lariat.lariat.org>; from Brett Glass on Thu, Apr 09, 1998 at 10:28:12PM -0600 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 9 April 1998 at 22:28:12 -0600, Brett Glass wrote: > At 11:35 AM 4/10/98 +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: > >> Tim knows about Jordan, despite his message. We've repeatedly tried >> to get them interested in BSD, but there's something at ORA that >> resists. > > It is, as usual, the "almighty dollar." That alone wouldn't explain it. > ORA sees the Linux market as larger, and therefore favors it. They publish books. Just because they publish books doesn't mean that they can't also publish books on BSD. In fact, O'Reilly Germany *are* planning a BSD book, but I haven't seen much about it for a while. The closest I could find to a real concern was that their 4.4BSD manual set didn't sell nearly as well as they had expected. I have contacts at ORA via my book "Porting UNIX software". They're not all against BSD, but the Powers that Be are. >> I've just about given up with ORA. They seem to be relinquishing >> their position as the favourite UNIX publisher and chasing the NT >> crowd. > > More proof, alas, that they're chasing what they believe to be the > largest market. That's my take too. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message