From owner-freebsd-advocacy Fri May 7 12:11:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (quackerjack.cc.vt.edu [198.82.160.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A926A14DB1 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 12:10:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jobaldwi@vt.edu) Received: from sable.cc.vt.edu (sable.cc.vt.edu [128.173.16.30]) by quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA13190; Fri, 7 May 1999 15:10:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (jobaldwi.campus.vt.edu [198.82.67.63]) by sable.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA21074; Fri, 7 May 1999 15:10:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 15:10:51 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: Eric Wayte Subject: Re: PCWeek article by Anne Chen -- Comments Cc: FreeBSD Advocacy , John Baldwin Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG We've told them that but they aren't convinced. :( On 06-May-99 Eric Wayte wrote: > Ah, but those texts have been written: "Unix for Dummies," "Mastering > Unix," etc. FreeBSD is more Unix than Linux - that's why the Linux crowd > has to have all of these "special" books! > > FreeBSD == Unix > Linux == Unix like > > Even WinNT can be made Unix like, as far as the commands go - I use the vi > that comes with the POSIX kit in the WinNT Workstation Resource Kit. > > > Eric Wayte, DBA > Univ. of Central Florida > ewayte@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu > > > On Wed, 5 May 1999, John Baldwin wrote: > >> Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 18:24:48 -0400 (EDT) >> From: John Baldwin >> To: Brett Glass >> Cc: FreeBSD Advocacy , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG, >> Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai >> Subject: Re: PCWeek article by Anne Chen -- Comments >> >> >> On 05-May-99 Brett Glass wrote: >> > Those who are fostering awareness and encouraging change ARE contributing. >> > Coding is only one way to contribute, and at this point it is not even >> > the most important way. Gain more mindshare and a devoted following, and >> > the coders will follow. >> >> I agree. As I've said a couple of times now, the CS department here at Va >> Tech >> is considering switching from FreeBSD to Linux. All of the technical staff >> in >> the department support FreeBSD, but some of the professors don't use that to >> make their decisions. They decide based on what they read in PC Magazine >> over >> breakfast. They are looking specifically for FreeBSD in a shrink-wrapped >> boxes, or books on FreeBSD. They would love to see "Mastering FreeBSD", >> "FreeBSD Unleashed!", "FreeBSD for Dummies", etc. They are trying to >> satisfy >> employer's wants, and right now they see more companies going for Linux than >> FreeBSD. Technical merits such as a unified kernel and userland, central >> source repository, and the ports system can only get us so far. We each >> have >> to advocate in as many different ways as we can. And as Brett has said, >> marketing and coding are two different things and not people are good at one >> are good at the other. I'm a sys admin/coder who aspires to being a kernel >> hacker someday. Marketing is not my strength, so while I'll do what I can, >> some people are going to promote FreeBSD differently and in some ways more >> effectively than I do. >> >> > --Brett Glass >> >> --- >> >> John Baldwin -- http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/ >> PGP Key: http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/pgpkey.asc >> "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.freebsd.org >> >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message >> --- John Baldwin -- http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/ PGP Key: http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message