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Date:      Sun, 2 Dec 2001 19:16:36 +0100
From:      "Anthony Atkielski" <anthony@freebie.atkielski.com>
To:        "Doug Reynolds" <mav@wastegate.net>, "Mike Meyer" <mwm@mired.org>
Cc:        <questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Feeding the Troll (Was: freebsd as a desktop ?)
Message-ID:  <00d801c17b5d$7c7fcd90$0a00000a@atkielski.com>
References:  <200112021647.fB2Gl2x17334@freebie.atkielski.com>

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Doug writes:

> surprisingly enough, i agree with you here.

So does the market, apparently, since most desktops are Windows, whereas most
servers are still running UNIX (as far as I know).

> from a basic X setup, it _really_ _really_ sucks.
> I admit that.  but if you spend the couple days /
> weeks, its not bad.

The average user does not want to spend more than a couple of _minutes_ to set
things up.  Only geeks with nothing else do to are willing to spend days or
weeks on such a task.

> that is because it is free, so don't bitch.

Commercial versions of UNIX are not necessarily any better.

> ie Windows 2000 as a server

Or Windows NT, or any version of Windows, for that matter.

> actually, you can leave out Win2000.  it is garbage.
> I've been running it off and on, it doesn't have
> any 3d support, the video drivers for it lockup
> randomly, and the print sharing sucks ...

Hmm.  I've heard mostly rave reviews about Windows 2000.  I don't run it myself
because Windows NT already does everything I require, and I don't want to risk
going through exactly the sort of thing that you describe above.  I _know_ that
everything on my machine works correctly now under Windows NT, so why would I
upgrade to Windows 2000 and spend six months trying to achieve parity with what
I already have today?

> it is going bye - bye as soon as i convert back to
> FAT32. (dumbass me converted to ntfs).

Windows NT is nice, although, if you weren't using NT to begin with, changing
from 2000 to NT would just be a lateral move, with the same problems.  So would
changing to any other operating system, for that matter.


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