From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Nov 20 21:19:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA13734 for chat-outgoing; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 21:19:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat) Received: from obie.softweyr.ml.org ([199.104.124.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA13723 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 21:19:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wes@xmission.com) Received: (from wes@localhost) by obie.softweyr.ml.org (8.7.5/8.6.12) id WAA15178; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 22:37:56 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 22:37:56 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199711210537.WAA15178@obie.softweyr.ml.org> From: Wes Peters To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" CC: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD mentor program (was: Stealable idea?) In-Reply-To: <370.880078739@time.cdrom.com> References: <199711200355.UAA13839@obie.softweyr.ml.org> <370.880078739@time.cdrom.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I had recently blathered: % While you're at it, sign me up for the following: % % C/C++ programming: small, medium, or large scale. (Defined as a few % thousand, tens of thousands, and hundreds of thousands of lines of % code. Never done a "millions" project yet.) To which Jordan K. Hubbard replied: > Hmmm. Well, just to inject a note of cold reality into this, we have > a lot of people who bill themselves that way but they don't appear to > be much on taking on any actual projects, it seems, or we'd have had > our zip library API or our Turbovision based object set for TCL or our > device registration mechanism or our new package system (based on much > of the previous) or any of the host of other things which I and others > have called out for over the last 3 years (and which need to be > essentially written from scratch, having found no appropriate "canned > solutions" out there). > > So I guess what I'm saying is that it's all well and good to list your > capabilities, but of far more importance is that key question which > Sean Connery asked of Kevin Costner in "The Untouchables": > > "What are you prepared to *do*?" Advise people who are working on FreeBSD projects. That is what Eivind was asking about, a FreeBSD Mentoring list of some sort. I don't have a lot of bandwidth left for big coding projects in my copious spare time, which amounts to 2 hours on Sunday afternoon, if I'm lucky, each week. I do, however, have an hour or so each night after the baby goes to sleep before I completely bomb out, and can occasionally write lucid replies to queries during those times. If someone wants to tap into the expertise I have and ask a few questions, I'm more than glad to help. This is what *I* envisioned by a "FreeBSD Mentor" project/list. As an editor hereabouts used to say, "We welcome contrasting viewpoints from responsible individuals." -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC http://www.xmission.com/~softweyr softweyr@xmission.com