From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Dec 7 20:26:32 2000 From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 7 20:26:30 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from smtp03.primenet.com (smtp03.primenet.com [206.165.6.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3832B37B400; Thu, 7 Dec 2000 20:26:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp03.primenet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA00741; Thu, 7 Dec 2000 21:24:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr08.primenet.com(206.165.6.208) via SMTP by smtp03.primenet.com, id smtpdAAATZaWzb; Thu Dec 7 21:24:09 2000 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr08.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA04354; Thu, 7 Dec 2000 21:26:16 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <200012080426.VAA04354@usr08.primenet.com> Subject: Re: Arrgh - Net-scrape your brains off the wall To: kris@FreeBSD.ORG (Kris Kennaway) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 04:26:16 +0000 (GMT) Cc: dmlb@dmlb.org (Duncan Barclay), freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20001206235741.A8485@citusc17.usc.edu> from "Kris Kennaway" at Dec 06, 2000 11:57:41 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: tlambert@usr08.primenet.com Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Can anyone recommend a "stable" version of Netscape? > > There isn't one, but using the linux version with java and javascript > disabled works pretty well for me. > > Java has never worked properly from day one on any unix platform I've > tried - there are some black magic things you can do to not antagonise > it, which Terry can probably disburse forth on at length, if pressed > :-) In fact, I've had much better success with recent Linux Mozilla > snapshots and the JVM plugin - pity it's such a stupendous memory hog, > though. They make invalid assumptions about thread scheduling, which POSIX does not guarantee, but which Windows, and most kernel threads = process implementation do, with regard to which thread runs after an involuntary context switch. FWIW, it seems that they fixed their Java GIF rendered to be reentrant, recently, even on FreeBSD. The main "voodoo" is to not move the mouse pointer until everything is done being loaded, or you may trigger the scheduler, and reenter their non-reentrant code. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message