From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Apr 13 02:33:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA26113 for isp-outgoing; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 02:33:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hydrogen.nike.efn.org (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.28]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA26108 for ; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 02:33:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by hydrogen.nike.efn.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id CAA10230; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 02:33:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <19970413023340.27101@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> Date: Sun, 13 Apr 1997 02:33:40 -0700 From: John-Mark Gurney To: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Some advice needed. References: <3.0.32.19970413032749.00cf3968@mixcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970413032749.00cf3968@mixcom.com>; from Jeffrey J. Mountin on Sun, Apr 13, 1997 at 03:27:49AM -0500 Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney Organization: Cu Networking X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2-960801-SNAP i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 EC EF F8 AE ED A7 31 96 7A 22 B3 D8 56 36 F4 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jeffrey J. Mountin scribbled this message on Apr 13: > At 05:59 PM 4/13/97 +1000, Daniel O'Callaghan wrote: > >On Sat, 12 Apr 1997, Vincent Poy wrote: > >K5 works fine with FreeBSD. 8MB is enough, especially if you have plenty > >of swap. I know of a 486DX4-120 with 8 MB RAM running 30 permanent > >kernel ppp (/usr/sbin/pppd) sessions. It thrashes like hell during > >startup, but then it settles down. It is also running gated. I did > >recommend to the owner that he give it more RAM, though. Note that pppd > >is mostly swapped out for normal use. > > Wasn't this in an ISP environment? Using swap is slow and won't matter > much for a workstation, but for a server 32Mb should be the start point. > For a DNS only server, 16Mb. yes... but we are talking about a terminal server... they have very small memory foot prints as you normally don't run much on one... right now my diskless termserver has a HUMONGOUS size of 13megs... hmm... something must be wrong... the last time I checked it was only 6-7megs... of course I can login to it via serial console and get plenty of stats from the machine... would people be interested in a remote statistics gathering program? you would run a small daemon on the terminal server (or anything else) then you could connect to the machine with a client and obtain any info you might want from it... > >As for 100 vs 10 Mbps, calculate the b/w of your modems.... > > PCI helps to keep down collisions, at that is what I have seen from a mix > of 16 bit NICs and 10/100 PCI cards using 10bT. YMMV hmm... interesting.. I would think that PCI would keep the host processor a bit more free to do other things... guess I'll have to finally invest in a PCI ethernet addapter for my maine server... ttyl... -- John-Mark Cu Networking Modem/FAX: +1 541 683 6954 Live in Peace, destroy Micro$oft, support free software, run FreeBSD