From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 8 01:41:19 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A4F316A41B for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2007 01:41:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30A6B13C46A for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2007 01:41:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDESK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id l881fHBo078080; Fri, 7 Sep 2007 18:41:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Danny Pansters" , Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 18:42:08 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <200709060218.04416.danny@ricin.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 Cc: Subject: RE: Sadly, my tinker-time has run out.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2007 01:41:19 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Danny Pansters > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 5:18 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Sadly, my tinker-time has run out.... > > > I reckon the last two additions to this thread was the passive-aggressive > version of "can't we just all get along.. and now STFU". > Heh! > For that reason alone, I > believe that the FreeBSD community actually needs people that tend to go > against the grain from time to time. It's a healthy thing. > The entire FreeBSD community goes against the grain. Doesen't anyone know we are all supposed to sit down and shut up and use the latest software Redmond has blessed? After all, this computer industry is all for the greater glory of Microsoft, didn't ya know? ;-) > Why not buy one of > those gorgeous new imacs or a Mac lappy and be done with it, while still > being able to do a lot of hacking if you really want to? From > what I've read > OSX is a great development system. > Well, em, it depends. They may have improved stuff but I ran into a lot of fun and games building rogue on Panther. (Hey, a UNIX system isn't a UNIX system without rogue - it's a piece of history!) And, building KDE was a lost cause. My understanding reading the message boards on MacOS X is that 90% of the Mac users out there simply use precompiled packages that someone else built, and so what they have to say about the subject (which is basically praise, praise, praise, etc.) is pretty much worthless. The 10% that actually build software swear at it as much as they swear by it. One of the more popular packages out there is a massive piece that pulls precompiled stuff from archives and installs it, according to what MacOS X you have running, so that ought to tell you something. But there's no question that if you can afford it, MacOS X and a pile of commercial Mac software makes a perfect first OS for a Windows refugee. Ted