From owner-svn-src-all@freebsd.org Wed May 23 19:11:28 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBBACEAE174; Wed, 23 May 2018 19:11:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net) Received: from mx1.sbone.de (mx1.sbone.de [IPv6:2a01:4f8:130:3ffc::401:25]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx1.sbone.de", Issuer "SBone.DE" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 85A4A79D15; Wed, 23 May 2018 19:11:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net) Received: from mail.sbone.de (mail.sbone.de [IPv6:fde9:577b:c1a9:31::2013:587]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.sbone.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4E7A625D3A86; Wed, 23 May 2018 19:11:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from content-filter.sbone.de (content-filter.sbone.de [IPv6:fde9:577b:c1a9:31::2013:2742]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.sbone.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 81D8FD1F7F0; Wed, 23 May 2018 19:11:24 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at sbone.de Received: from mail.sbone.de ([IPv6:fde9:577b:c1a9:31::2013:587]) by content-filter.sbone.de (content-filter.sbone.de [fde9:577b:c1a9:31::2013:2742]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EhVfMKvEw1CG; Wed, 23 May 2018 19:11:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.124.1] (fresh-ayiya.sbone.de [IPv6:fde9:577b:c1a9:f001::2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.sbone.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A3F51D1F7E8; Wed, 23 May 2018 19:11:22 +0000 (UTC) From: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" To: "Brooks Davis" Cc: src-committers@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r333388 - in head: . share/man/man4 sys/conf sys/dev/nxge sys/modules sys/modules/nxge tools/kerneldoc/subsys tools/tools tools/tools/nxge usr.sbin/bsdconfig/share Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 19:11:21 +0000 X-Mailer: MailMate (2.0BETAr6111) Message-ID: <06ACF82E-4072-40B1-9ECF-A0DBDD23A11B@lists.zabbadoz.net> In-Reply-To: <20180523182010.GB58848@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net> References: <201805082114.w48LETM3060105@repo.freebsd.org> <20180523174117.GO71675@FreeBSD.org> <20180523182010.GB58848@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 19:11:28 -0000 On 23 May 2018, at 18:20, Brooks Davis wrote: > On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 10:41:17AM -0700, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: >> On Tue, May 08, 2018 at 09:14:29PM +0000, Sean Bruno wrote: >> S> Log: >> S> nxge(4): >> S> Remove nxge(4) and associated man page and tools in FreeBSD >> 12.0. >> ... >> S> +20180508: >> S> + The nxge(4) driver has been removed. This driver was for PCI-X >> 10g >> S> + cards made by s2io/Neterion. The company was aquired by Exar >> and >> S> + no longer sells or supports Ethernet products. If you have >> device >> S> + nxge in your kernel config file it must be removed. >> S> + >> >> If end of sales and support is enough to remove 10g driver from the >> kernel, >> can we please delete all 10Mbit, 100Mbit 10+ year old drivers from >> the kernel? > > It's probably a good idea to add deprecation notices for them now and > merge for 11 to find out which ones still have users. Someone on IRC > mentioned that FreeNAS removed them and ended up restoring one, but I > don't remember which one it was. > > My gut feeling is that we're a bit late in the game for doing a mass > removal for 12, but we should definitely do so for 13. I’d be very careful. I can still buy a lot of 100Mbit/s cards and you constantly find them on new SoCs still which don’t do Gbit/s. Also there’s a lot of legacy hw floating around for some of them. 12 definitively seems to be too short term. /bz