From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mon Apr 5 02:38:28 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD9095BEB20 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2021 02:38:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fjwcash@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qk1-x736.google.com (mail-qk1-x736.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::736]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FDFFw48p0z4qN3; Mon, 5 Apr 2021 02:38:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fjwcash@gmail.com) Received: by mail-qk1-x736.google.com with SMTP id y5so10345939qkl.9; Sun, 04 Apr 2021 19:38:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=1nmhHf0tIN6m3v6luPeVzMbaQqOWE1RhIRqyGawGGng=; b=Xw+BO4uJneJ/52mUaB6juIxhLCM3Ow8J2KBCRoyaSVX+l198LEJCCo0Bd3hUKWCPqe stQvdFzVv26jvt6ozHptX+vKs9nANR8753+jdp2ssybwpeow+b0USKtBkF1/nmyNaRPl rMAD/PUeKup7jDGrUdTpTmSpZxwMJbtJyq9VaYTtXI/oA6nm+RBm8hfCE+JeA8kHLA51 STjS8cCyOw3ozeO7C9DPq+vYc0mQONT8K0ybyFPzwAgEKCDtSVozSCbHMGgdFysL3b/l Jo09c39LR9gaemcPz5eFWgOS30+QeCyqUyrtO4OFkAAoIGj0qYPmYpxnAkNRsuBfXjpP wqXw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=1nmhHf0tIN6m3v6luPeVzMbaQqOWE1RhIRqyGawGGng=; b=QsCfx2qySBonSlVUBWVI23Xuhhopp2g5OT0LaaRpDYT+/F7c4U/nvyL6Vn8DaAUl4s ioL93jvCByEhX6yGBF3NaAtOSPa2VaSiWuFoxQGzBiCTHgORn4PzJ8wPmdUfp47xB/qQ B4eB1PTi51E72F1SR81wcbOCe55+FRx5y6JQetQxEq/G0EE5GUtBzH24nIm4sqPpwUr5 720qa4Z2ksqGZTlnhhdCfmUMy6qv8gYBMlSGTQGwd5YpoQQgH4o3+ADdxa0rLMhJ5NXb 0r7C1iGDSTaDf8bfRosn4mVlMXytgJkF/0+bNwYcMOFlHEKD1W1E8X/PqeuivNoy0jsN yKgQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532q6OqFwY2gVTBPQml7RTBsaprrRmWoCF8MSV5PnoaNTYZBe4NE o5hLBgru1r8GGg/HI3GMxrSKk18ZJuQcv9CXnj4= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxVgOfqReWWpIHm3ZgF4gjBSfLIWIeZPCm5MZ2bHpZBDC+uPE7U/zfEGvjvuOC81QGNFB+3qeSzUFjJly0UdAw= X-Received: by 2002:a37:392:: with SMTP id 140mr22395002qkd.236.1617590307499; Sun, 04 Apr 2021 19:38:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <0070fa8d-1e9c-89c7-f0a8-40aace3030d8@quip.cz> In-Reply-To: From: Freddie Cash Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2021 19:38:15 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Deprecating base system ftpd? To: Rick Macklem Cc: Dave Cottlehuber , FreeBSD Stable , Ed Maste X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4FDFFw48p0z4qN3 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.34 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2021 02:38:28 -0000 On Sun., Apr. 4, 2021, 5:04 p.m. Rick Macklem, wrote: > > I wonder what others find convenient when moving files to/from > Windows? > SCP works beautifully for transferring files to/from Windows stations. Haven't needed FTP support for about a decade now at $WORK and at home. SSH has quickly become the ubiquitous replacement for FTP. Windows 10 even comes with a native OpenSSH client these days (along with the version that comes with WSL). As for ftpd being in base, as a user of FreeBSD (not a developer) I'm ok with it moving to ports or disappearing completely. So long as fetch(8) supports FTP for connecting to remote FTP servers. Cheers, Freddie Typos due to smartphone keyboard. >