From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 5 05:56:50 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61CB116A4BF; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 05:56:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailman.zeta.org.au (mailman.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CD8A43FF3; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 05:56:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bde@zeta.org.au) Received: from gamplex.bde.org (katana.zip.com.au [61.8.7.246]) by mailman.zeta.org.au (8.9.3p2/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA14492; Fri, 5 Sep 2003 22:56:42 +1000 Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 22:56:41 +1000 (EST) From: Bruce Evans X-X-Sender: bde@gamplex.bde.org To: Poul-Henning Kamp In-Reply-To: <8719.1062756317@critter.freebsd.dk> Message-ID: <20030905222531.N9760@gamplex.bde.org> References: <8719.1062756317@critter.freebsd.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [Patch] mdmfs currently broken X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 12:56:50 -0000 On Fri, 5 Sep 2003, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <20030905195552.I9319@gamplex.bde.org>, Bruce Evans writes: > > >> We should not revert to putting BSD labels on everything. > >> > >Disk labels are required by the not unused fsck_ffs utility to search > >for alternate superblocks. > > You mean: > > The widely used fsck_ffs utility is able to use information from > the optional BSD disklabel. I mean: The widely used fsck_ffs utility's ability to find alternate superblocks will be broken when it is most needed if certain parts of disk labels or equivalent metadata is not written automatically somewhere outside of the file system proper. Users who don't know what a disk label or an alternate superblock is can't be expected to back them up or calculate the correct block number to supply to fsck_ffs -b. The file system info in the label is a form of backup of a (very) few parameters. The alternate superblocks are another. Bruce