From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 14 16:19:12 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 098D816A46B for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2007 16:19:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rpaulo@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68FA813C458 for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2007 16:19:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rpaulo@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id y2so246716uge for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2007 09:19:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer:sender; bh=EFyIZ22DJXCd5mVEBZ2SwmDdpqR8oEsiFv7xteBKZOU=; b=EpcfzDuFkYHp0/M5vZx1THzSv0hB/jSWkAupOxZpjEg1UCqdKpbt8Jf92DpKR6uVEOrm+DVlqrfCgMHDh87zIoOdc7WpuGHmeeCIKSerQ9Hb7VDuGoCghDQghv4nowhND8f8T97GhrUePCwuWv5cYCqiKPlort5QTVAQfJ6N6qY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer:sender; b=p9yqZQUsK7Dt7glg1N91LaRVGJMWb+qqleLFm8TrTIqGIwbcpqv0sDkSZP08+K+vZRNYRAmEvgkbWHeCFcmWGqRcIMEyfOi792+so+0tQdPuL0PHMLOqSVSWQ0YRSR2aHFGov7h6hDpKeXK1qm7txc+QTT3OVHIApfLpj5tAr9c= Received: by 10.66.216.8 with SMTP id o8mr6840260ugg.1192378750006; Sun, 14 Oct 2007 09:19:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?10.0.0.13? ( [83.144.140.145]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b36sm2072101ika.2007.10.14.09.19.05 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 14 Oct 2007 09:19:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <66400.1192378445@critter.freebsd.dk> References: <66400.1192378445@critter.freebsd.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Rui Paulo Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 17:18:57 +0100 To: Poul-Henning Kamp X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Sender: Rui Paulo Cc: cvs-src@FreeBSD.org, src-committers@FreeBSD.org, Alexander Leidinger , cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/etc Makefile sensorsd.conf src/etc/defaults rc.conf src/etc/rc.d Makefile sensorsd src/lib/libc/gen sysctl.3 src/sbin/sysctl sysctl.8 sysctl.c src/share/man/man5 rc.conf.5 src/share/man/man9 Makefile sensor_attach.9 src/sys/conf files ... X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 16:19:12 -0000 On 14 Oct 2007, at 17:14, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <200710141045.l9EAjW4m058732@repoman.freebsd.org>, > Alexander Leiding > er writes: > >> Log: >> Import OpenBSD's sysctl hardware sensors framework. > > I would like to register a complaint about this commit. > > When this was discussed I objected that this entire pile of crap does > not belong in the kernel. > > I still think this is a festering junkpile that does not belong in > the kernel, and that his should be backed out, until a proper > architectural solution has been found. > > Adding a new bogus type of device tree just because on cannot be > bothered to do things right, is the road that leads to things like > SYSV IPC and away from a sustainable architecture for an operating > system which is here for the long term. What is your proposed solution? I read the discussion on perforce@ when it happened but from where I stand no consensus has been reached and no other solutions have been discussed. Regards. -- Rui Paulo