From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Fri Aug 28 16:37:34 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 675453B6C7A for ; Fri, 28 Aug 2020 16:37:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zeising@freebsd.org) Received: from mail.daemonic.se (mail.daemonic.se [176.58.89.161]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BdQHf0Wvhz3ZWy for ; Fri, 28 Aug 2020 16:37:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zeising@freebsd.org) Received: from cid.daemonic.se (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by mail.daemonic.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BdQHb4jqwz3mrC; Fri, 28 Aug 2020 16:37:31 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at daemonic.se Received: from mail.daemonic.se ([IPv6:::1]) (using TLS with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256) by cid.daemonic.se (mailscanner.daemonic.se [IPv6:::1]) (amavisd-new, port 10587) with ESMTPS id MNZ1JCidZC7a; Fri, 28 Aug 2020 16:36:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vivi.daemonic.se (vivi.daemonic.se [IPv6:2001:470:dca9:1200::4]) by mail.daemonic.se (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4BdQGq3xfqz3mxZ; Fri, 28 Aug 2020 16:36:51 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: deprecation of drm-legacy-kmod To: George Mitchell , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <82a5b9c8-b331-1cb9-7bcd-8525dcb345bf@m5p.com> From: Niclas Zeising Message-ID: <987e3e12-e01f-68c5-cf33-da6d6026c0eb@freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 18:36:50 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <82a5b9c8-b331-1cb9-7bcd-8525dcb345bf@m5p.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4BdQHf0Wvhz3ZWy X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.00 / 15.00]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[freebsd]; local_wl_from(0.00)[freebsd.org]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36236, ipnet:176.58.89.0/24, country:US] X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 16:37:34 -0000 On 2020-08-25 00:32, George Mitchell wrote: > On 2020-08-24 18:21, Niclas Zeising wrote: >> [ cross posted across several mailing lists, please respect reply-to ] >> >> Hi! >> >> It is time to deprecate drm-legacy-kmod [...] it is time for it to go. >> >> The driver will remain for a transition period.=C2=A0 For FreeBSD 13-C= URRENT, >> this will be fairly short, as there are changes to FreeBSD base that >> breaks the drivers.=C2=A0 For FreeBSD 12, the driver will remain a bit >> longer, to ease in transition.=C2=A0 On FreeBSD 12, there is also the = option >> of using the graphics drivers in base, although those are supported on= a >> best-effort basis only. [...] > My secret decoder ring is telling me the implicit message here > (along with a recent Qt5 "upgrade") is that the FreeBSD home page > explicit statement that the 11.3 and 11.4 releases of FreeBSD are > in production status is a bit of a lie. I know I'm going to have > to upgrade to 12 sooner or later, but I just don't have a warm, > fuzzy feeling about that right now. >=20 > Forgive me for venting ... -- George >=20 The legacy drm drivers are available in base in 11 if you need them, in=20 fact, the drm-legacy-kmod port was never available on FreeBSD 11. You=20 can also use drm-kmod on FreeBSD 11. From a desktop standpoint, yes, FreeBSD 11 is getting old, and is=20 getting harder and harder to maintain, and there will be no driver=20 updates to support newer GPUs on 11 for instance. Currently there are=20 no plans to remove any support for running FreeBSD 11 on the desktop. Regards --=20 Niclas Zeising