From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 11 00:51:47 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CBDB16A4BF; Thu, 11 Sep 2003 00:51:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vhost109.his.com (vhost109.his.com [216.194.225.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AA6F43FCB; Thu, 11 Sep 2003 00:51:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brad.knowles@skynet.be) Received: from [10.0.1.2] (localhost.his.com [127.0.0.1]) by vhost109.his.com (8.12.6p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h8B7piVP057479; Thu, 11 Sep 2003 03:51:44 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from brad.knowles@skynet.be) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: bs663385@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3F601C70.D97697E8@mindspring.com> References: <3F50C956.70603@carebears.mine.nu> <3F5193E2.8060805@carebears.mine.nu> <20030831065010.GA23179@titan.klemm.apsfilter.org> <20030910104807.GB47986@titan.klemm.apsfilter.org> <3F601C70.D97697E8@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 09:50:50 +0200 To: Terry Lambert From: Brad Knowles Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: strip FreeBSD a bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 07:51:47 -0000 At 11:55 PM -0700 2003/09/10, Terry Lambert wrote: > It used to be that the BSD credo was > "if you break it, you now own it, and it's your responsibility to > fix it". For as long as I've been involved with FreeBSD, the approach that I've always heard applied was instead: If you complain about it, it's your responsibility to fix it. Maybe that's the disconnect. Maybe we need to go back to the older style, which I have never personally encountered with regards to FreeBSD. However, that would have to be enforced by -core, and they'd have to agree to live up that standard themselves. -- Brad Knowles, "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania. GCS/IT d+(-) s:+(++)>: a C++(+++)$ UMBSHI++++$ P+>++ L+ !E-(---) W+++(--) N+ !w--- O- M++ V PS++(+++) PE- Y+(++) PGP>+++ t+(+++) 5++(+++) X++(+++) R+(+++) tv+(+++) b+(++++) DI+(++++) D+(++) G+(++++) e++>++++ h--- r---(+++)* z(+++)