From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 26 12:42:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C71A116A4CE for ; Thu, 26 Feb 2004 12:42:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62CAE43D1D for ; Thu, 26 Feb 2004 12:42:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i1QKgBkj082149; Thu, 26 Feb 2004 13:42:11 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 13:41:54 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <20040226.134154.18582197.imp@bsdimp.com> To: phk@phk.freebsd.dk From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <3062.1077827962@critter.freebsd.dk> References: <20040226.130330.54448406.imp@bsdimp.com> <3062.1077827962@critter.freebsd.dk> X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: des@des.no cc: arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: per-device sysctls X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 20:42:14 -0000 In message: <3062.1077827962@critter.freebsd.dk> "Poul-Henning Kamp" writes: : In message <20040226.130330.54448406.imp@bsdimp.com>, "M. Warner Losh" writes: : : >: Just for the record: Having based this on newbus it only documents : >: hardware-anchored device drivers. I don't know if this is going to : >: be a limitation we will have to address or not, but I think you should : >: reserve the toplevel name "pseudo" or "sw" or similar as a placeholder : >: for non-hardware device drivers, just in case. : > : >There's not really a tree for pseudo devices right now. They just are : >kludged into the system any old way that they can be at the moment. : >They aren't part of the hardware device hierarchy. : : As long as we agree that this is for hardware only and limited to : that, then I have no problems. : : I still think it prudent to nail down "pseudo" or "sw" or something : should we change our mind. We should nail that down when we decide on the mechanism for dealing. Warner