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Date:      Wed, 11 Dec 1996 07:31:22 +0100
From:      roberto@keltia.freenix.fr (Ollivier Robert)
To:        freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: IBM drives
Message-ID:  <Mutt.19961211073122.roberto@keltia.freenix.fr>
In-Reply-To: <9612110151.AA04005@cabri.obs-besancon.fr>; from Jean-Marc Zucconi on Dec 11, 1996 02:51:07 %2B0100
References:  <9612110151.AA04005@cabri.obs-besancon.fr>

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According to Jean-Marc Zucconi:
> I am going to purchase another drive, either an IBM DFRS 2000 or an
> IBM ORN 2000. There was a recent discussion here about some IBMs doing 
> automatic shutdown, but I forgot which drives to avoid :-)
> Are the disks above ok?

I don't think the DFRS is ok... Don't know about the ORN. I have a DORS
32160 and am very happy with it.

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Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 19:14:52 +0100
From: se@ZPR.Uni-Koeln.DE (Stefan Esser)
To: pvp@fareast.rosprint.ru (Vladimir P. Frolov)
Subject: Re: SCSI problem

Vladimir P. Frolov writes:
> Every night (after several hours of inactivity ) 
> there are some errors on my SCSI subsytem.
> 
> 
> environment:
>   FreeBSD 2.1.5
>   IWIll P55TU with Adaptec 7880 (2940 UW)
>     enable disconnection for HDD - no
>     termination: Low-Off/ High-On
>   IBM HDD: DFRSS2W (wide SCSI drive) connected to wide connector
>     autostart   - on
>     D TI SY     - on
>     TERM PWR EN - on
>   TOSHIBA SCSI-2 CD-ROM connected to 50pin connector
>     terminated via pluged terminators
> 
> syslog:
> -------
> sd0(ahc0:0:0): timed out in command phase, SCSISIGI == 0x4
> sd0(ahc0:0:0): asserted ATN - device reset in message buffer
> sd0(ahc0:0:0): timed out in dataout phase, SCSISIGI == 0x0
> ahc0: Issued Channel A Bus Reset #1. 2 SCBs aborted
> sd0(ahc0:0:0): UNIT ATTENTION asc:29,0
> sd0(ahc0:0:0):  Power on, reset, or bus device reset occurred
> , retries:3
> 
> swap_pager: I/O error - pagein failed; blkno 11152, size 8192, error 5
> vm_fault: pager input (probably hardware) error, PID 92 failure
> sd0(ahcsd0(ahc0:0:0): NOT READY asc:4,1
> sd0(ahc0:0:0):  Logical unit is in process of becoming ready
> , retries:3

Ahh, the IBM DFRS ...

Well, but it was cheap, wasn't it ?


This is the "SOHO" version of the DFHS, with identical technical
specs, except it is not suitable for 24 hour operation. There once
was a report in a German computer magazine (c't), according to which
the drive will be automatically powered down (and restarted after 
about one minute) when it has been up for too long. It is sold for
systems that get switched off each night, and their owners will 
never notice. But this is fatal for a server ...

Try to get that drive replaced by some other model. The DFHS is 
about 50% more expensive, but there was a cheap (OEM) version of 
the Quantum Atlas 2GB being offered all around, which seems to be
technically identical to the "normal" Atlas. It was manufactured 
for some large OEM, which did not accept the drives (for whatever
reasons) and now are sold cheaply (with OEM specific firmware).

Sorry, but there most probably isn't any software solution. You
could try to perform a controlled STOP/START cycle of the drive at 
a more suitable time (with the SCSI driver knowing that there will
be no reply from the drive for more than a minute).

Regards, STefan

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Ollivier ROBERT    -=- The daemon is FREE! -=-    roberto@keltia.freenix.fr
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