From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 12 19:23:00 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CF9716A41F; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 19:23:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ru@ip.net.ua) Received: from tigra.ip.net.ua (tigra.ip.net.ua [82.193.96.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA4FC43D45; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 19:22:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ru@ip.net.ua) Received: from localhost (rocky.ip.net.ua [82.193.96.2]) by tigra.ip.net.ua (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9CJMv45088102; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 22:22:57 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru@ip.net.ua) Received: from tigra.ip.net.ua ([82.193.96.10]) by localhost (rocky.ipnet [82.193.96.2]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 75080-05-3; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 22:22:55 +0300 (EEST) Received: from heffalump.ip.net.ua (heffalump.ip.net.ua [82.193.96.213]) by tigra.ip.net.ua (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9CJJWmR087976 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 12 Oct 2005 22:19:33 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru@ip.net.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by heffalump.ip.net.ua (8.13.4/8.13.4) id j9CJJXqZ085654; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 22:19:33 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 22:19:33 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Ceri Davies , src-committers@freebsd.org, cvs-src@freebsd.org, cvs-all@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20051012191933.GD75270@ip.net.ua> References: <200510121009.j9CA9aE3026075@repoman.freebsd.org> <20051012.091330.53066886.imp@bsdimp.com> <20051012152710.GC75270@ip.net.ua> <20051012.104300.74694006.imp@bsdimp.com> <20051012170652.GI99170@submonkey.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="cHMo6Wbp1wrKhbfi" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051012170652.GI99170@submonkey.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ip.net.ua Cc: Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/usr.bin/make make.1 X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 19:23:00 -0000 --cHMo6Wbp1wrKhbfi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Oct 12, 2005 at 06:06:52PM +0100, Ceri Davies wrote: > > From: Ruslan Ermilov > > Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/usr.bin/make make.1 > > Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 18:27:10 +0300 > >=20 > > > On Wed, Oct 12, 2005 at 09:13:30AM -0600, M. Warner Losh wrote: > > > > In message: <200510121009.j9CA9aE3026075@repoman.freebsd.org> > > > > Yar Tikhiy writes: > > > > : yar 2005-10-12 10:09:36 UTC > > > > :=20 > > > > : FreeBSD src repository > > > > :=20 > > > > : Modified files: > > > > : usr.bin/make make.1=20 > > > > : Log: > > > > : __MAKE_CONF doesn't really belong here because it is > > > > : a FreeBSD extension of sys.mk. A xref to make.conf(5) > > > > : will be enough here. > > > > : =20 > > > > : Requested by: ru > > > >=20 > > > > I disagree. It is already hard enough to find info about __MAKE_CO= NF, > > > > and since it is part of the base system, this seems like an artific= ial > > > > distinction. > > > >=20 >=20 > > > We really don't need any more duplication. >=20 > That's true, but it should be our problem and not the user's. >=20 It's not just that, it's that __MAKE_CONF isn't used/set/known by the make(1) utility. It's a location of make.conf file that is included by the default FreeBSD version of sys.mk. So if we wanted to emphasize this, it'd be more logical to talk more about make.conf(5) itself, what it is and how it's used in FreeBSD. It can be a separate section, e.g. "FreeBSD sys.mk", documenting __MAKE_CONF and probably other "make \ __MAKE_CONF=3D/dev/null -f /dev/null -dg1" bits. Or it could be a short explanation of what make.conf is and then a reference to the make.conf(5) manpage. But it's certainly not the make's internal variable (where it was initially documented), hence my objection=A0to this commit. Cheers, --=20 Ruslan Ermilov ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer --cHMo6Wbp1wrKhbfi Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDTWHFqRfpzJluFF4RAhuSAJ4tYbqbkc7aLtngeI59sfljDUwoEACeNTaC ugNyZyP85148EkLkFOUb4bo= =jEeg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --cHMo6Wbp1wrKhbfi--