From owner-svn-src-all@freebsd.org Wed May 23 19:16:29 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2B44EAE42C; Wed, 23 May 2018 19:16:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net) Received: from pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net (br1.CN84in.dnsmgr.net [69.59.192.140]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B90CC79FC6; Wed, 23 May 2018 19:16:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net) Received: from pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id w4NJGNPS036639; Wed, 23 May 2018 12:16:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd@localhost) by pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id w4NJGN9d036638; Wed, 23 May 2018 12:16:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <201805231916.w4NJGN9d036638@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: svn commit: r333388 - in head: . share/man/man4 sys/conf sys/dev/nxge sys/modules sys/modules/nxge tools/kerneldoc/subsys tools/tools tools/tools/nxge usr.sbin/bsdconfig/share In-Reply-To: <034afbd6-a83a-b753-15fa-5f42eba24b51@freebsd.org> To: Stefan Esser Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 12:16:23 -0700 (PDT) CC: rgrimes@freebsd.org, Mark Linimon , Gleb Smirnoff , Sean Bruno , svn-src-head@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org Reply-To: rgrimes@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL121h (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 19:16:29 -0000 > Am 23.05.18 um 20:14 schrieb Rodney W. Grimes: > >> On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 10:41:17AM -0700, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: > >>> If end of sales and support is enough to remove 10g driver from the kernel, > >>> can we please delete all 10Mbit, 100Mbit 10+ year old drivers from the kernel? > >> > >> Depends on how many existing users we want to screw over. Not everyone > >> replaces all their hardware every 2 years, folks. > > > > And some of us buy 2 year old hardware because it is cheap, > > and serves our needs just fine. Even 8 year old servers > > make usable machines today. > > > >> The difference is that the Exar chips failed in the marketplace; very > >> few seem to have made it out into the wild. > >> > >> Given, 10Mbit-only things are way past their sell-by date. > > > > Do we even have any 10Mbit only drivers? I think that all the > > 10mbit drivers also support 100mbit devices, but maybe there > > are some odd cases I cant remeber. > > AFAIK and FWIW: > > ed(4), le(4) on amd64 and on i386 (ISA and PCI) ed(4) has many 100 mbit cards. I recall recently booting something that showed up with an ed0: le(4) has some 100 mbit cards. Mostly supersceded by lnc(4) > ex(4), ep(4) on i386 (ISA and PCcard) These are truely dead, IMHO. -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@freebsd.org