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Date:      Thu, 13 Feb 2020 07:13:19 -0800
From:      Chris <bsd-lists@BSDforge.com>
To:        Peter Jeremy <peter@rulingia.com>
Cc:        freebsd-current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>, mike tancsa <mike@sentex.net>
Subject:   Re: Which AMD CPUs are supported -- temperature
Message-ID:  <b136671faec4a6e94894a4f922eb9874@udns.ultimatedns.net>
In-Reply-To: <20200213072212.GB79914@server.rulingia.com>

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On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 18:22:12 +1100 Peter Jeremy peter@rulingia=2Ecom said

> On 2020-Feb-12 15:23:51 -0500, mike tancsa <mike@sentex=2Enet> wrote:
> >Not sure about the older Athlon CPUs, but the 2 generations of Ryzen's I
> >have seem correct as well as an APU
> >
> >CPU: AMD GX-412TC
> >SOC=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 (998=2E17-MHz
> >K8-class CPU)
>=20
> OTOH, I'm not confident about temperatures on my APU=2E  The publicly
> available data just says that the SoC reports "a temperature on its own
> scale" relative to a Tctl_max which "is specified in the power and therma=
l
> data sheet" (that I have been unable to locate)=2E  Everyone seems to assum=
e
> that the step size is 0=2E125K but I haven't found that publicly documented
> anywhere=2E  The AMD Product Brief states that the maximum temperature is
> 90=C2=B0C but using that as Tctl_max gives me temperature readings that d=
on't
> look right=2E
>=20
> >And on a fanless APU
> >
> ># sysctl -a dev=2Ecpu=2E0=2Etemperature
> >dev=2Ecpu=2E0=2Etemperature: 62=2E6C
> >
> ># sysctl -a dev=2Eamdtemp=2E0=2Ecore0=2Esensor0
> >dev=2Eamdtemp=2E0=2Ecore0=2Esensor0: 63=2E1C
>=20
> At what ambient temperature?  I see a similar value from my (idle) APU3
> but don't believe the (implied) ~35K junction-to-ambient difference=2E
I've read that (most?) of the Intel CPUs (everything since "core" versions)
has a copy of MINIXv3 on them @ ring -3=2E Does/could the AMD System Manageme=
nt
Network provide any *additional* clues?
And *why* won't AMD provide more *definitive* specs? Hoping consumers "cook=
"
their (A|C)PUs and ultimately buy more of their product?

--Chris
>=20
> --=20
> Peter Jeremy





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