From owner-freebsd-arch Thu Nov 9 11:15:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D88537B479 for ; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 11:15:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id eA9JFWg21495; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 12:15:33 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id MAA43115; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 12:15:32 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200011091915.MAA43115@harmony.village.org> To: Matt Dillon Subject: Re: The shared /bin and /sbin bikeshed Cc: Peter Wemm , arch@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 09 Nov 2000 11:09:58 PST." <200011091909.eA9J9wM10639@earth.backplane.com> References: <200011091909.eA9J9wM10639@earth.backplane.com> <200011091223.eA9CNQW26294@mobile.wemm.org> Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 12:15:32 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <200011091909.eA9J9wM10639@earth.backplane.com> Matt Dillon writes: : I'd recommend against the linux /lib + /usr/lib model, it's a big : mess. I don't see much of a point in cutting the size of /bin and : /sbin down, they are already fairly small (3.8M and 10M) and it : isn't as though we need the disk space! The static nature of : /bin and /sbin have saved me more times then I can remember. I also : have unfond memories of blowing /lib up under linux and not being : able to do anything. In the general case I'd agree with you. Disk is cheap. And almost all system have split / and /usr. In the small, embedded world, however, reducing the 4.1M and 12M to 600k and 1200k respectively is a huge win. We at Timing Solutions run FreeBSD in 16M or 32M or 64M parts where an extra 6M is a huge win. Especially on the 16M part. The minimal system that I had went from 14.7M to 7.9M which pushed the 16M part from being useless to being useful (we have about 6M of binaries and sundries that go onto these systems). I also plan on putting together a small 16M X terminal for the iopener with this if all goes well. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message