From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 22 21:59:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8AE21065679; Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:59:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnemmi@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.155]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04E858FC16; Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:59:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 16so61255fgg.13 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 2009 14:59:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=seBdZTAVPObNjgxSxSubSLkybwsSDndN5n73XdakVkI=; b=KlPR1zmfebe7R1nzmjsFQJIgI+7iNzq3e/sNBWaWsT44THFq5fSsDiH3nnWEGZ/bBU s9c5EpzQZJ+Xlz29VlLT3rlmVr3FTspR8iFIED6hWWId2gE+SgQ6l+6xjCEwYxZ6VCTo g2nP5A8RANUT6dVfu7mq3rV1p3kw7+c23o9zs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=kkMn9sNFDgcdMgxzLHfaN927Spb8AxZhnsP3sM1UuWbNqCRXsl6Be5kaQXpnpNQ+ag PNTJHM1ggZDnUxgAxidQEFqvPJhfb10gbqtYafeRyuh78vu2o1wtKijVfZisL3C81SHY oB0wdPxXqFiFheCQFrzXo1mxWWVhK8Uzvrg18= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.183.39 with SMTP id s39mr116390hbg.177.1253656776761; Tue, 22 Sep 2009 14:59:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090922212650.GA84817@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> References: <20090921112657.GW95398@hoeg.nl> <20090922135435.36a3d40e@lazybytes.org> <4AB90448.9020706@FreeBSD.org> <19e9a5dc0909221014o14e88c96ubf32142b85d781d@mail.gmail.com> <20090922173517.GB63149@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <19e9a5dc0909221053r4ada92bege718e37aa575e0de@mail.gmail.com> <4AB91DAA.5010000@FreeBSD.org> <19e9a5dc0909221411n1486cb80x220384b37daee921@mail.gmail.com> <20090922212650.GA84817@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:59:36 -0300 Message-ID: <19e9a5dc0909221459q5095f29qcd0c09886a7a4ee3@mail.gmail.com> From: Gonzalo Nemmi To: Steve Kargl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: arch@freebsd.org, Sergey Vinogradov , Doug Barton , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BIND in the base (Was: Re: tmux(1) in base) X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:59:39 -0000 On 9/22/09, Steve Kargl wrote: > On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 06:11:37PM -0300, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: >> On 9/22/09, Doug Barton wrote: >> > Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: >> > >> >> With all due respect, I already know that .. it's pretty clear in the >> >> different manuals, hanbooks and how-ro's ... and that's exactly why I >> >> never asked how can I remove sendmail and replace it with dma .. the >> >> question was more inclined in the way: why such a heavywheight (which >> >> is what a lot of users seem to be saying, and I agree with them) when >> >> we could do just as well with dma >> > >> > So do it already. :) A lot of people have talked about this, but no >> > one has put code where their mouth is. Create a POC and post it to >> > -arch, then we have something concrete to discuss. And please, don't >> > bother with the "But I don't want to do the work if it isn't going to >> > be accepted into the base" argument. There are way more than enough >> > people whinging about this topic that your work will have an >> > appreciative audience, which is all the reward we get around here. >> >> Dear Doug: >> >> Those words were just an explanation to Steve Kargl's misleading >> interpretation of my former e-mail. >> > > My interpretation was not misleading. If anything my comment > was informative because there was no indication in your post > that you knew the history and continued maintenance of sendmail > nor did you indicate that you knew how to replace sendmail via > the Handbook's description. Yet you assumed I didn't know any of them, took no care in finding out the answer to at least even one of your presumptions and decided that the best way to find out was to throw Shapiro's name on me and tell me to RTFM instead of coming up with a straight answer to a straight question?. So much for the Occam's razor principle ... Anyways .. this is way OT and I'm no longer willing to discuss it. Regards Gonzalo