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To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com>
cc: Michael Smith <msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au>, ugen@latte.worldbank.org,
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Subject: Re: dset & userconfig 
In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 11 Sep 1995 18:10:05 PDT."
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Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 22:02:59 -0700
From: Paul Traina <pst@shockwave.com>
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  From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com>
  Subject: Re: dset & userconfig 
  > >It has been tested on what I have to hand; to wit, one FreeBSD machine.
  > >I don't have an asr33 anymore; and my LA120 is making some small fish
  > >very happy.  _minimal_ ANSI is required/
  > 
  > OK, I have a bug report to file.
  > 
  > BUG: new userconfig() assumes a minimal ANSI terminal.
  > 
  > FIX: make it work on a glass tty or ASR-33.   Not all the world is ANSI!!! 
>>:-
  
  This was hardly unknown at the start, and I was the one who told
  Michael to feel free in assuming ANSI as a minimum price of entry.
  However, it was perhaps the wrong decision to make this interface the
  *only* one and I am talking now with Michael about making the entire
  visual interface a command available from the wretched, inferior, ugly
  CLI interface we have now.  I may even go a few steps towards
  improving that CLI, like adding wildcarding to `disable' and other
  such creature comforts.
  
  Would that make you happ(y|ier)?

See the last message I just sent out.  I think having the "ugly" userconfig
as an #ifdef'ed thing, and a user mode program to operate a sysctl interface
is where we want to be.

Paul