From owner-freebsd-fs Fri Feb 4 19:16:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EF4844EF for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 19:16:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) id NAA10505; Sat, 5 Feb 2000 13:46:36 +1030 (CST) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 13:46:36 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: "Russell L. Carter" Cc: Wes Peters , bpechter@shell.monmouth.com, freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: JFS and IBM Message-ID: <20000205134636.J9737@freebie.lemis.com> References: <20000205030715.641175B@pinyon.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <20000205030715.641175B@pinyon.org> WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Friday, 4 February 2000 at 20:07:15 -0700, Russell L. Carter wrote: >> [moved to -fs] >> >> On Friday, 4 February 2000 at 15:28:34 -0700, Wes Peters wrote: >>> Bill Pechter wrote: >>>> >>>> Folks, while some of us were at Linux expo talking about journaling file >>>> systems and *BSD, IBM released jfs to the GPL. >>>> >>>> Is there anyone working on this as a gpl'd add-in to *BSD? >>> >>> You apparently haven't noticed the war of words going on on >>> http://daily.daemonnews.org/ on this very topic? I think this is going >>> to be our most "popular", or at least commented on, article to date. >> >> There was also a discussion in -fs, so I'm following up there. >> >>> Greg Lehey has downloaded the code and looked at it. Despite my >>> cheering and enthusiasm, he reports that we should wait until he >>> actually produces something to pronounce him a hero. ;^) >> >> Damn it, you keep mentioning my name. I'm certainly no hero based on >> what I've done or propose to do. For an update, taking in what phk >> had to say the other day: this is the OS/2 version, which has had the >> dependencies on the VM system removed. I consider it likely that, as >> a result, performance will be disappointing. Also I haven't seen any >> documentation which explains how it works. Given the size of the code >> base, this would make it quite a challenge. Maybe somebody else more >> stupid^H^H^H^H^H^Hheroic than I wants to have a go. > > Look folks, is it too hard to understand that an OS/2 filesystem > released as "Opensource" might not make any sense at all to burn up > anybody's time, That's not clear. It might make sense, and I hope somebody takes a look. > Does it look like the IBM mamaship is finally clueing into > marketing? > > Why yes it does! There are some very good reasons to start with the OS/2 version. It's a lot easier to integrate into Linux, since it doesn't have all the hooks for the IBM VM system. The performance might still be acceptable on Linux. And I could be wrong, and it might even be very good. > Does it look like the thundering herds (hurds) are going to run this > into another half to several megabytes a day of mindless drivel on > the usual ramifications of a nonexistent technology on a nonexistent > marketplace... > > Why yes it does! I wouldn't call it nonexistent technology. It's very real, as is the marketplace. > So get over it. And lay off Greg. Thanks, but I don't think anybody's picking on me. Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-fs" in the body of the message