From owner-svn-src-all@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 3 15:51:12 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6028106564A; Sat, 3 Dec 2011 15:51:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fjoe@samodelkin.net) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77FF68FC08; Sat, 3 Dec 2011 15:51:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ggnp1 with SMTP id p1so1488082ggn.13 for ; Sat, 03 Dec 2011 07:51:12 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.88.99 with SMTP id bf3mr486753obb.73.1322927471956; Sat, 03 Dec 2011 07:51:11 -0800 (PST) Sender: fjoe@samodelkin.net Received: by 10.182.76.225 with HTTP; Sat, 3 Dec 2011 07:51:11 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [80.89.199.122] In-Reply-To: <20111203012843.S2543@besplex.bde.org> References: <201112020909.pB299sFk084589@svn.freebsd.org> <20111203012843.S2543@besplex.bde.org> Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 21:51:11 +0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: AsQSkKzNW1kmGsBy7pIUdHyzvHk Message-ID: From: Max Khon To: Bruce Evans Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: svn-src-head@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r228196 - in head: share/mk tools/build/options X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2011 15:51:12 -0000 Bruce, On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 9:41 PM, Bruce Evans wrote: >> Log: >> =C2=A0Revert to conservative defaults. WITH_PROFILE is a default now. >> >> =C2=A0NO_PROFILE overrides in Makefile.inc1 and bsd.own.m are left intac= t >> =C2=A0so that the reversal to the WITHOUT_PROFILE will be easier in futu= re. > > > Thanks. =C2=A0Not building profiled libraries might have been best in 199= 3 > when makeworld took hours (4-10?). =C2=A0When I optimized makeworld in 19= 98, > it still took more than 1 hour but I removing profiling from it was > intentionally left out (except for bootstrapping). =C2=A0It would have sa= ved > only a few minutes. =C2=A0Now, a whole makeworld should take a few minute= s > and the few extra seconds for profiling libraries doesn't matter. The real goal was to have reasonable defaults. The definition of reasonable differs. The definition for some of us is: if I use it it should be the default. My definition is: the system needs minimum tweaks for the majority of users. Max