From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jul 31 20:55:45 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2CA8A88B1 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2019 20:55:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.135]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 45zQgN5BQBz4LYc for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2019 20:55:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([178.5.92.230]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue009 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1N8XHV-1iOGEo3Vtx-014Wef; Wed, 31 Jul 2019 22:55:35 +0200 Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2019 22:55:35 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Aryeh Friedman Cc: Ralf Mardorf , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Best hardware for a replacement desktop? 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Hey! If I didn't have a spare 21" 4:3 CRT, I wouldn't even be able to read this! I'm a Frankenstein museum of forgotten and reanimated computer hardware... ;-) I have created dual-screen setups with CRTs many years ago, with one graphics card (1st monitor DVI->VGA, 2nd monitor VGA), and it was very convenient to work with. The only problem with CRTs is that they're demanding workspace area and volume, compared to LCDs. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...